The millionth hit on this blog is as good an occasion as any to finally broach the inevitable subject for a blog about curious cartography: Middle-earth. J.R.R. Tolkien’s invented mythology centred on an epic story of the struggle between Good and Evil, but it also included an elaborate backstory, a complex of languages, genealogies, cultures and peoples – and a map.
Created by Tolkien somewhere in the 1930s, the map shows the ‘mortal lands’ of Middle-earth, which according to Tolkien himself is part of our own Earth, but in a previous, mythical era. At the time of the events described in ‘The Hobbit’ and ‘The Lord of the Rings’, Middle-earth is moving towards the end of its Third Age, about 6.000 years ago.
Tolkien didn’t create Middle-earth ex nihilo: ancient Germanic myths divide the Universe in nine worlds, inhabited by elves, dwarves, giants, etc. The world of men is the one in the middle, called Midgard, Middenheim or Middle-earth. That term doesn’t thus describe the entirety of the world Tolkien thought up. The correct term for the total world is Arda – probably derived from German Erde (‘Earth’) and only first mentioned posthumously in the Silmarillion (1977); and Eä (for the whole Universe).
The Hobbits are described as inhabiting ‘the North-West of the Old World, east of the Sea’, and therefore it’s tempting to associate their home with Tolkien’s own, England. Yet, Tolkien himself wrote that ‘as for the shape of the world of the Third Age, I am afraid that was devised ‘dramatically’, rather than geologically, or paleontologically.” Elsewhere, Tolkien does admit “The ‘Shire’ is based on rural England, and not any other country in the world.”
Tolkien at least compares his ‘Old World’ with Europe: “The action of the story takes place in the North-West of ‘Middle-earth’, equivalent in latitude to the coastlands of Europe and the north shores of the Mediterranean (…) If Hobbiton and Rivendell are taken (as intended) to be about the latitude of Oxford, then Minas Tirith, 600 miles south, is at about the latitude of Florence. The Mouths of Anduin and the ancient city of Pelargir are at about the latitude of ancient Troy.”
But, as Tolkien states in the prologue to ‘The Lord of the Rings’, it would be fruitless to look for geographical correspondences, as “Those days, the Third Age of Middle-earth, are now long past, and the shape of all lands has been changed…” And yet, that’s exactly what Peter Bird attempts with the map here shown. Bird, a professor of Geophysics and Geology at UCLA, has overlapped the map of Middle-earth with one of Europe, which leads to following locations:
• The Shire is in the South-West of England, which further north is also home to the Old Forest (Yorkshire?), the Barrow Downs (north of England), the city of Bree (at or near Newcastle-upon-Tyne) and Amon Sul (Scottish Highlands).
• The Grey Havens are situated in Ireland.
• Eriador corresponds with Brittany.
• Helm’s Deep is near the Franco-German-Swiss border tripoint, close to the city of Basel.
• The mountain chain of Ered Nimrais is the Alps.
• Gondor corresponds with the northern Italian plains, extended towards the unsubmerged Adriatic Sea.
• Mordor is situated in Transylvania, with Mount Doom in Romania (probably), Minas Morgul in Hungary (approximately) and Minas Tirith in Austria (sort of).
• Rohan is in southern Germany, with Edoras at the foot of the Bavarian Alps. Also in Germany, but to the north, near present-day Hamburg, is Isengard. Close by is the forest of Fangorn.
• To the north is Mirkwood, further east are Rhovanion and the wastes of Rhûn, close to the Ural mountains.
• The Sea of Rhûn corresponds to the Black Sea.
• Khand is Turkey
• Haradwaith is the eastern part of North Africa, Umbar corresponds with the Maghreb, the western part of North Africa.
• The Bay of Belfalas is the western part of the Mediterranean.
This map taken here from professor Bird’s page at UCLA.



Wow. OK, so I get double points for nerdiness (maps AND Tolkein) but I love this.
Comment by sylvia — June 4, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Unfortunately, Dr. Bird doesn’t explain how he made the map. He hasn’t simply transposed Tolkein’s map onto a map of Europe, as others have done. Instead, it looks like he’s run time backwards and lowered the sea levels, then looked for correspondences between M-E and Europe. In Tolkein, for example, the trip from the Shire through Bree to Rivendell is more or less West-to-East, while on this map it’s almost a straight Northward march. However, it’s not a simple rotation, since Minas Tirith is due West of Minas Morgul on both maps.
Comment by Todd — June 4, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Tolkien wasn’t so nice to us Hungarians:-)
Comment by aetil — June 4, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Denmark appears to have acquired a mountain range.:P
Comment by Leo Petr — June 4, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Does that mean the Americas are the Undying Lands? Were the Native Americans actually Elves (and three Hobbits and a Dwarf)?
Comment by Jason — June 4, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
A very interesting concept. I know that Tolkien based many of the races/geopolitics of MiddleEarth on the Geopolitics of post WWI Europe. Very Interesting indeed
Comment by jtbrookreson — June 4, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
[...] 121 – Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? [image] The millionth hit on this blog is as good an occasion as any to finally broach the inevitable subject for a […] [...]
Pingback by Top Posts « WordPress.com — June 4, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Eriador is not only “Brittany”, it’s the whole region between the Misty Mountains (shown here as Hithaeglir) and the Blue Mountains (Ered Luin) – which latter were the eastern boundary of Beleriand.
One of Tolkien’s letters, I think, says the distance and direction between Hobbiton and Minas Anor matches that between Oxford and Rome.
But if Middle-Earth reflects “the geopolitics post WWI Europe”, the analogies are way too subtle for me. Do the corrupt East and South represent Germans or Slavs or Turks? Where is France? Why is Italy the front-line defender of all that is good?
Comment by Anton Sherwood — June 5, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
I guess Rockall is the grave of Turambar, said to be the only point of Beleriand remaining above water.
Comment by Anton Sherwood — June 5, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
I’m glad to see the inclusion of maps for fictional places.
Comment by rek — June 5, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
[...] Vía e información: Strange Maps – Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? [...]
Pingback by La Cartoteca » Blog Archive » Tolkien vs Mundo Real — June 5, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
@Jason: No, North America is not the Undying Lands, since they were removed from the world when it was bent (made round).
@jtbrookreson & Anton: I don’t think Tolkien really based Lord of the Rings on post WW1 Europe. He was more interested in connecting with older stories/cultures. The culture of the Rohirrim, for example, imagine that the ancestors of the Anglo Saxons had horses (“Beowulf with horses”).
Comment by Todd — June 8, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Nice map. I think I live in Lorien.
Comment by Nikolaj — June 10, 2007 @ 9:43 am
Wow, I live exactly at Erebor.
Comment by Kabanoid — June 10, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
[...] on Earth was Middle Earth? This guy thinks he has it figured out. Excerpt: • The Shire is in the South-West of England, which further north is also home to the [...]
Pingback by The Daily Eudemon — June 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Mr. Sherwood–Italy might be the front-line defender of all that is good because Tolkien was a Roman Catholic; his own religion centered on Rome, although for various other reasons he loved his home country and the mythology of Europe’s more northern climes.
It doesn’t have all that much to do with post-WWI Europe.
I’d really like to know how the maker of this map arrived at his conclusions.
Comment by JaneC — June 12, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Cool. I am from Mordor. From around Mount Doom.
PS @Jackson: Todd is right. The Undying Lands are beyond our reach; Númenor is actually Atlantis, and the new lands (Americas) were created by Ilúvatar after Númenor was destroyed.
Comment by tapirul — June 12, 2007 @ 3:47 am
Well, the scale at least is very different. If one accounts for the various journeys taken on foot (Rivendell to Lorien, for example), the Middle-Earth mapped in the books is considerably smaller than the continent.
Comment by Malfred — June 12, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
what a load of old bollocks..! :D
Tolkein based the entirety of middle earth on the ‘Midlands and Black Country’ area of the UK.
Sauron’ Mt Doom/Castle affair for example is based upon an old water mill in Kenilworth which Tolkein used to visit when he was a child.. Ask (most) people from the Midlands and they will tell you the same thing (after they’ve mugged you and nicked yer tainers)… We had this shit drilled into us from infants…
Comment by dr3n — June 12, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
[...] Where on Earth is Middle Earth June 12, 2007 Posted by Wilhelm2451 in Lord of the Rings Online. trackback The blog Strange Maps, an interesting read on most days, has an entry with a map of Europe overlayed on a map of Middle Earth. Done by a professor at UCLA, if nothing else if provides an interesting scale to the Middle Earth. Find it here. [...]
Pingback by Where on Earth is Middle Earth « The Ancient Gaming Noob — June 12, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
[...] Middle Earth [...]
Pingback by The Heinrich Show » Blog Archive » Do you like Maps? — June 12, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
[...] seen strange maps yet, there are a lot of cool maps over there. another great one is the map of middle earth which tries to figure out where all of the main points of interest would be in europe. with how [...]
Pingback by maps at kittyholmes — June 12, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
Wow! This is brilliant! And incredibly destructive to my office productivity! :D
Comment by Brian — June 12, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
[...] Jun 12, 2007 in Uncategorized 121 – Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? « strange maps [...]
Pingback by Map of Middle-Earth/Europe « The Wingèd Man — June 13, 2007 @ 12:22 am
[...] site has a number of interesting maps, including a terrific map of Middle Earth, and a map of 19-century Hannover, Germany, tattooed on a woman’s [...]
Pingback by The Penultimate Word » Hey, we’re Argentina — June 13, 2007 @ 2:13 am
Fascinating – as is the rest of your site! I wrote a book, TOLKIEN’S MAPS OF MIDDLE-EARTH with artist John Howe and there are a couple of map references (!) on my blog…
http://briansibleysblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/mapping-imagination.html
Comment by Brian Sibley — June 14, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
[...] Found a cool blog. This is the best post I’ve read there. One of the things I loved about LOTR all the years was the maps. Even in the paperbacks without [...]
Pingback by Strange Maps « i am indisposed — June 15, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
[...] taste of kind of thing you’ll find, Middle Earth layered onto a map of Europe…read the Strange Maps post as it’ll make [...]
Pingback by Two great blogs « Stuff-O-Rama — June 16, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
[...] vez se haban preguntado: Where On Earth Was Middle-earth?. Al escribir J.R.R. Tolkien su famosa saga del Seor de los anillos, cre razas, lenguajes, [...]
Pingback by ¿Dónde estaba la Tierra Media? » …Microplagio… — June 17, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
[...] Earth Geography for Fans With Lives I may be the last person to read Strange Maps’ post about Middle Earth, seeing as how the blog gets a million hits and I only learned about it today, but there’s [...]
Pingback by Middle Earth Geography for Fans With Lives « fandumb — June 19, 2007 @ 6:33 am
Where in the World was Middle Earth?
A geography professor’s hypothetical geomorphology of Middle Earth
Trackback by Ian Bogost — June 20, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
aetil wrote:
“Tolkien wasn’t so nice to us Hungarians:-)”
actually, i’d say history wasn’t so nice to us Magyars.
i’m glad to see a map with minas anor = vienna and minas ithil = budapest (danube=anduin). tolkein was clearly influenced by the great seiges of vienna (by easterlings and southerons) and muslim capture of hungary (half of a twin kingdon)
Comment by Steven — June 20, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Very clever. There’s something satsifying about the way the mountain ranges match up. I’ve got no problem with distances and directions being stretched and skewed: consider Herodotus’s map of Europe and Africa for example – basically right but distorted.
The thing that is strange is that the Grey Havens are shown substantially inland. That’s an awful long way to drag the boats…
Comment by Quercus — June 21, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
The arabic word “Ard” for earth is very similar to German, Erd
Comment by Sam — June 21, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
I’m from Romania, so that means that in Tolkein’s terminology I’m a Mount Doomer. :P Funneh. Do good people live near Mount Doom?
Comment by bovanne — June 22, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
I believe this was also tried with Robert E. Howard’s Hyborian Age map…
Comment by Tyger — June 22, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
[...] [link][more] [...]
Pingback by VeronicasLore.com » Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? — June 24, 2007 @ 9:10 am
The guy who made this is a professor of what, Geophysics and Geology? And he thinks the *scottish* highlands are in england? This will be one of these professorships that you can buy online, no? He’s obviously not a professor in geography ;-)
Comment by Tsk — June 24, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Really nicely done.
Comment by Grey — June 24, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
Naw……was definitely New Zealand…… :)
Comment by osiris7 — June 24, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
This draws a interesting parallel between Gondor and the Dutchy of Savoie.
Comment by genitalsmckool — June 24, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
[...] and discussion at Strange Maps. Conceivably Related PostsKangaroo Court This post from Daily Kos can’t be improved on, so I quote [...]
Pingback by frozen coagulated culture » Where in the World was Middle Earth? — June 24, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
The Gray Havens are at the mouth of the Shannon River?
That does my Irish-American heart proud.
Comment by Sean — June 25, 2007 @ 1:12 am
[...] http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/121-where-on-earth-was-middle-earth/ [...]
Pingback by FlashLadyBug.com » Where on Earth is Middle Earth? — June 25, 2007 @ 3:31 am
[...] Find out here. [...]
Pingback by Exceedingly Curious » Blog Archive » Middle Earth — June 25, 2007 @ 8:43 am
NICE MAP!!!!
Comment by Prabha Govind — June 25, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Cool, I live in Rivendell (Trondheim). :)
Comment by Kasami — June 25, 2007 @ 11:13 am
great map.
There is a story told (probably by Midlanders) that the shire was based on the area around sarehole mill in birmingham
Comment by steve — June 25, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Brilliant analysis
Comment by Zero Sum One — June 25, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Yup, I think I would have put those Grey Havens by the sea.. And where they are there is pretty much on top of a city called Limerick – which really is an unholy dump.
It is kick-ass map though.
Comment by Tokyo — June 25, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Bunch of nonsense.
Comment by jouster — June 25, 2007 @ 11:47 am
I’m sorry to inform you – Tolkien was not from the United Kingdom, he was born in South Africa and lived there for the first part of his life. Political issues forced him to move. Get your facts right… a large number of his references are actually of african terrain… sorry mate.
Comment by floodedcodeboy — June 25, 2007 @ 11:56 am
@floodedcodeboy: yup, get your facts straight, please. Tolkien left what is now South Africa in 1895, which means he was barely 3 years old. Even though born in Bloemfontein, Tolkien was a British citizen. As such, I don’t think Tolkien had very vivid memories of the first 3 years of his life. You reckon?
Comment by Padraig — June 25, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
as padraig said, tolkien considered himself british and there are TV interviews in which he himself clearly states to camera that he based the Shire on ‘the land of his childhood’ which he makes clear is rural England, specifically the area around Oxford.
Comment by benchmark — June 25, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
I live in Greece so where the fuck is my country(not Mordor,Kand,Harrad-maybe under the sea)
Comment by nikos — June 25, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
one of the worst tolkein related stuff. the author should be ashamed for this bull crap.
Comment by iblees — June 25, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
So the vast green forests of Lothlorien and Mirkwood were actually in Scandanavia? Okaaaaaaaaaaay….
Comment by DailyRich — June 25, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
@tsk: I think he was referring to the region of great britain when he referenced the scottish highlands. not england itself.
Comment by kevin — June 25, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Although they show Rhan as Southern Germany, the people were decidedly Norsemen (who rode horses…). Okay, it’s all a very fascinating debat to try to get into the brain of a dead man. :)
Comment by Larian LeQuella — June 25, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Also Edoras was South of Helms Deep and North of Minas Tirith.
Comment by kevin — June 25, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
The thing I find odd is that this map turn the entire continent around. In LotR, Bree is east of the Shire, but according to this map, it’s north. While I like the way things line up, I find it hard to believe that the continents re-aligned themselves 90 degrees or that the earth tilted on its axis and started spinning another direction.
Comment by Chredon — June 25, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Can someone tell me what happened to south east asia and southern asia?
Comment by cc — June 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Didn’t sit thru all the comments – But -
Think about this – Tolkien took painstaking time and effort to develop whole languages – explicit details of the “world” around the characters – the cahracters themselves – the cultures – the different types of beings – their above mentioned ancestry and lineage_
And on and on and on with details upon details upon details_ Now with all of what he poured into The Hobbit – LOTR – Silmarillion – ask yourself – did he really stop short of creating the Map of the land by merely drawing some random squiggles on a page and be done with it ’cause he lacked the aptience or got bored or was in a hurry and wanted to be done with it and move on ?
It’s fiction and we must treat it as such_ But always – any story somehow always draws upon something personal to the writer_ So Yes – there will be analogies that can be drawn from a map of the British Isles or from the western shores of Europe_ Where did Tolkien live ? Where did he travel during his life ?
Either way – it’s still way cool to try and correlate the map_
Comment by billy bob — June 25, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
nevertheless – he was a south african!!! even if for just the first 3 years …
Comment by floodedcodeboy — June 25, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
the Shire is almost directly west of Esgaroth in Middle-Earth, however on this map the Shire is much more south it’s even further south than Mirkwood.
Comment by Magnus — June 25, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Neat idea, but the scale doesn’t fit the map–according to this, Esgaroth is as far from the Iron Hills as it is from Mordor; yet in The Hobbit Dain made the trip with an army in a little over a week.
Comment by Jeff — June 25, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
It’s interesting to compare Tolkein’s Elves to those of another British fantasy writer who has created a world, Terry Pratchett. In younger days I was fascinated by LotR and The Hobbit, and compared M-E to Europe, though Tolkein stated that the idea came from England. Now I prefer Pratchett’s stories, to a great extent because of his world.
Comment by 124c41 — June 25, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
I have liked the idea for years, that Middle Earth might be found in our geography. I find the comments an interesting mix. Most people are forgetting 6000 years worth of drift, erosion and most dramtically, climate change. Is it really that incredible that humans living 6K- 15K years ago might have much more earth to walk? Also, the Earth being round, this flat map would naturally be skewed. I’m glad someone did it.
Comment by Zeph — June 25, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Nice map…interesting name note though is that Gondor is the old name for Ethiopia.
Comment by Corwyn — June 25, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
[...] to Digg, I found an interesting post about the location of Middle-earth – Yes, from Lord of the [...]
Pingback by Lol@TheWeb » Blog Archive » Finding Middle-earth — June 25, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
If memory serves, JRRT and his mother left South Africa when his father died.
Comment by Anton Sherwood — June 25, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
[...] “Wow. OK, so I get double points for nerdiness (maps AND Tolkien) but I love this.” Posted on June 25th, 2007 in Interesting [...]
Pingback by Jackson Fish Market — June 25, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
[...] fun from our friends over at Strange Maps. As the post says, Tolkien didn’t create Middle Earth from thin air, it’s based upon [...]
Pingback by Very Spatial » Where is Middle-Earth? — June 25, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
Having read both the Lord of the Rings and the entire Conan mythology when I was younger, I was struck by the similarities.
The Conan novels share a similar landscape, with similarly placed major locations, and similar peoples populating similar lands.
I then concluded, and still believe, that these stories are of the same lineage, with the exploits of Conan taking place during the Age of Man, several thousand years after the events of the LotR.
Read both sets of work and tell me you don’t draw the same conclusion.
Comment by Chaos Motor — June 26, 2007 @ 12:27 am
Wow! I’m in Gondor!!!!!
Comment by Anne — June 26, 2007 @ 9:43 am
Si Europa fuera la Tierra Media
Mapa de la Tierra Media basado en Europa. Sería Transilvania Mordor? Rohan el sur de Alemania? Gondor el norte de Italia?
Trackback by meneame.net — June 26, 2007 @ 11:44 am
[...] diesem Blogger war Isengard ganz in der nähe. Rohan is in southern Germany, with Edoras at the foot of the [...]
Pingback by jeremy.lonien | Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? — June 26, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
If you look at Tolkien’s own maps of Middle Earth (or at least the part featured in “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings”, you’ll notice that the sea is to the south and west, while to the north and east the land mass of Middle Earth apparently continues. In contrast, C.S. Lewis’s “Narnia” is east-facing: the sea is to the east, and the western side is landlocked.
This is probably chance, but I’ve always liked to imagine the members of the Inklings – the writer’s group to which Tolkien and Lewis belonged – dividing up an imaginary landmass between them and placing their fantasy kingdoms on it. If that were true, there might be north- and south-oriented mythological worlds created by other members out there somewhere …
Comment by AngusM — June 26, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
Wow.. this is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.!
Comment by Prof Kienstra — June 27, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
[...] Jun 27th, 2007 by kspeak Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? [...]
Pingback by where was it? « k’speak — June 28, 2007 @ 1:15 am
[...] Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? : the map of Middle-earth overlapped with one of Europe, – The Shire is in the South-West of England; The Grey Havens are situated in Ireland. â�¢ Eriador corresponds with Brittany. â�¢ Helmâ��s Deep is near the Franco-German-Swiss border tripoint, Mordor is situated in Transylvania, with Mount Doom in Romania [...]
Pingback by Link-o-Rama for June 25 - 30 | False Positives — June 29, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
[...] to visit Poland, Hungary and our friends in Transylvanian Romania, really. But this map here, which places Middle Earth on the real map, says we’re actually going somewhere in the [...]
Pingback by John Borland » Off to Mordor we go — June 29, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Does Anduin – shown here as a river from Sweden to Istria – make any geologic sense??
Comment by Anton Sherwood — July 1, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Isn’t Grey Havens mean’t to be a port?
Comment by Colin — July 3, 2007 @ 11:04 am
[...] Where on Earth was Middle-Earth? [...]
Pingback by The Sai Chronicles » Blog Archive » Iffa — July 4, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Very believe able, but i think its just a coincadence to be honest. The mountain ranges are out and Isengard and Helms deep are closer, Helms Deep is south west of Isengard too.
Comment by Jack — July 5, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Ok if anyone has Google earth, goto Alaska, south west coast and lower your altitude to about 700 ft and then press north, it will give you the very coast line of middle earth. It might take some time to see it.
Comment by Jack — July 5, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
Greetings from Minas Morgul :) Interesting concept, awakening my Tolkien mania again :)
Comment by Balazs — July 11, 2007 @ 8:16 am
[...] 121 – Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? « strange maps (tags: middle_earth maps literature geography tolkien interesting) [...]
Pingback by links for 2007-07-12 « Commonplace Book — July 12, 2007 @ 12:34 am
I’m a big fan of Tolkien AND a devoted Hungarian – I’d be much better of seeing us as people of Rohan (as we do have a history in HORSEBACK riding.
If this map really suggests what Tolkien thinks of us, than he is sort of misleaded. I’m sorry to hear about that.
But I still adore his genius.
Comment by Franci — July 12, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Tolkien wrote during the World Wars, and he had an Atlas. Duh! Its clearly influenced by his situation and the then current events. (Good people to the west, evil dictator to the East).
Comment by TheLord — July 13, 2007 @ 9:35 am
re: #87
If you can’t get Google Earth, try these starters
Yukon and Kuskokwim Deltas
Where is Y-K Alaska (NASA) The map here is the base satellite image for much of Google’s maps in remote Alaska
Comment by mpb — July 16, 2007 @ 2:10 am
[...] Middle-Earth on Earth. [...]
Pingback by Technical Difficulties « citizen geek — August 9, 2007 @ 10:21 am
So, what’s the Middle Earth equivalent of the Iberian Peninsula?
Is no one there?
Come to think of it, maybe it’s not so bad… at least we’re left alone to live in relative peace.
Kudos on the map theory. It makes a LOT of sense if you consider the geography and even the ethnicity of the peoples living there. Not all, mind you – Eastern Europe is an amazingly beautiful country in geographic terms. Nothing like Mordor at all…
Comment by palmieres — August 17, 2007 @ 11:28 am
America = Valinor ??
Maybe…
:D
Comment by Hojaplateada — August 18, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
ha…
Concerning your post, I’ve just returned from Khand.
And what is about USA? :)
Comment by Lord — August 23, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
[...] Tolkien didn’t create Middle-earth ex nihilo: ancient Germanic myths divide the Universe in nine worlds, inhabited by elves, dwarves, giants, etc. The world of men is the one in the middle, called Midgard, Middenheim or Middle-earth. That term doesn’t thus describe the entirety of the world Tolkien thought up. The correct term for the total world is Arda – probably derived from German Erde (’Earth’) and only first mentioned posthumously in the Silmarillion (1977); and Eä (for the whole Universe).” more [...]
Pingback by Where is middle-earth… « gimme culture — September 9, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
[...] one from strange maps. See the article, Where on Earth Was Middle-Earth for some insightful commentary. For me, one picture (or map, courtesy of Prof. Peter Bird of UCLA) [...]
Pingback by Phil Lembo › Where was Middle-Earth? — September 12, 2007 @ 3:28 am
As someone already said, interesting comments. Especially when people try to work out a one-to-one relation to the ethnicities living in those places “now”. But I have to point out, a mountain range does not “mean” to say anything about any people who choose to live there, in various times. So stuff like “Tolkien thinks Magyars are so and so” doesn’t apply – the only thing making it appear so is our own perception of ourselves, seeking to ‘identify’ with certain visions. This goes the same for Nazi Germany: doesn’t mean that German people of today are to be considered Nazis. It’s very simple. LOTR is a work of fiction, but in our present day it is not known at all what this imaginative process really implies. Time and time again JRRT attempted to explain how it was for him, but it only comes across as being a little eccentric (that’s the pitfall, but likewise a good method to highlight something unusual). Those things in the ‘external’ history of the work represent ‘reminders’, simply ‘clues’ to the internal history of the work. It is of course fruitless to try and determine a one-to-one relation, but the internal work IS placed somewhere AS A WHOLE, otherwise it would not have been meaningful to the writer himself.
Comment by Slender Sail — September 17, 2007 @ 8:33 am
Plus… it is a matter of time, as well as space. In merely 6,000 years (8,000 in other versions), the continents could not have drifted apart *that* much – however, the sea levels are another matter. They are increasing right now, changing the shape of the land once more. So perhaps, another final clue is needed, as to where and how, and when. But it always comes back to the Stories having made the jump into another world, as opposed to the geological/archaeological proof. Therefore, something that Tolkien didn’t know, didn’t consider when writing, but which is real in its own right. Btw, I live in Romania, so I can say that no, it is not the “idea” of Mordor, as that is supposed to have ‘passed’. The land however, gets to see many different events coming and going. By living in Romania, I can say that because people do not generally know the Romanian language, they cannot study its folklore and spiritual information in general. But we have some stuff that can help. For example stories about gods (much like the Greek), as well as different figures, who are supposed to have lived here. A figure-head for many long past cults, etc. The only problem comes when people of today attempt to ‘own’ the information for their own gain (so as to say: we are proud to be Romanian, “because”). Then it is not believable any longer. That is a self-made trap.
Comment by Slender Sail — September 17, 2007 @ 9:07 am
To all the Hungarians, Romanians and Transylvanians…
Mordor is NOT an inherently evil land. It is just where Sauron happened to inhabit and corrupt for many years. In the Fourth Age (after the death of Sauron), King Elessar recolonizes Mordor slowly, so the land eventually heals and becomes no different from other lands of Men.
Comment by ObscureGamer — September 23, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Aetil you don’t consider a THING…
“Khand was under the influence of Mordor and supplied it with horses, and twice came into the history of Gondor: first in the year 1944 of the Third Age when the Variags together with the Wainriders attacked Gondor, and later during the War of the Ring when they fought and died on the Pelennor Fields. While this is not directly said in the literature, it is probable that Khand gradually fell under the control of Gondor during the Fourth Age and was hostile to it no longer.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khand_%28Middle-earth%29#Khand
IF is so…THE MORDOR-KHAND BLOCK
is EXTRAORDINARILY similar to…
THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE in 1683!
And Minas Tirith is about in the SAME PLACE of VIENNA!
Maybe the TRUE KEY of “THE LORD OF THE RINGS” is ANTI-ISLAMIC?
Comment by Paolo — September 28, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
[...] read more | digg story [...]
Pingback by Where on Earth Was Middle Earth? « Movies — October 2, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
is the information here on middle earth a fact??
Comment by bluesdesignstudio — October 8, 2007 @ 8:31 am
This is, without a doubt, the stupidest interpretation of Tolkien’s work. First of all, JRR was quite explicit when he said that Middle Earth is fictional and it’s history is not correlated to reality we live in. Also, the geography of ME is completely uncompatible to the regions of Europe.
Comment by dred — October 22, 2007 @ 9:33 am
PROUD TO LIVE IN MORDOR!!:D:D (romania)
Comment by orange — October 24, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
I think Greece would probably be around Dol Amroth – land of Prince Imrahil. ot too shabby :-)
Comment by zz — November 2, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
Cool I live in the north of Mirkwood!!! :D (kuopio, finland)
Comment by lOtta-karol — November 3, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
I’m a silvester elf!!
Comment by lOtta-karol — November 3, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
[...] the generally small reach of their imagination.” A map, discussed earlier on this blog (#121 – Where On Earth Was Middle-Earth?) takes the parallel between Tolkien’s world and the outline [...]
Pingback by 204 - One Ring To Rule Them All, Mate « strange maps — November 18, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Although “the shape of all lands has been changed”, the shape of the skies above has not. In the Fellowship, when the hobbits are with the wood elves, they watch “Remmirath”, the “netted stars”, followed by “red Borgil”, and “Menelvagor, the great swordsman” (pardon my spelling). These are almost certainly the Pleiades, Aldebaran, and Orion. Also, in the Silmarillian, there is talk of a sickle in the north made of 7 stars, representing the defeat of Morgoth. This sounds suspiciously like the Big Dipper
Comment by Nathan — November 19, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
[...] Where on Earth Was Middle-Earth? (from Strange Maps) [...]
Pingback by Mapping Narratives, ITP Seminar, Fall 2007 » Middle-Earth — November 19, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
While this map moves around places too much to be truly reliable and almost certainly does not represent Tolkien’s intentions, it’s still a fascinating jeu de esprit.
Comment by James Kabala — November 29, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
I’m a huge LOTR fan, and it’s really cool to see places in the world today that resemble the Middle Earth of the novels. Fascinating stuff when people make a link between fantasy and reality.
Comment by trademark registration — December 9, 2007 @ 8:15 pm
good post
—————————–
jbilou med
http://www.wowzik.com
Comment by Jbilou med — December 10, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Thanks for this fantastic overview of Tlkien and real world. But, when I were reading Silamril and other books from Tolkien I was totaly sure that Mordor is in Romania, Bulgaria and Albania, ’cause there you can see ( find too ) many similar forms and things closly to many things from Tolkien story.
Also, for Balcan mountains, we have another name, “Old Mountain”, meaning, The Ancient.
Comment by Leon Ha — December 14, 2007 @ 6:17 am
Although interesting it is to throw allegorical, even direct parallel relationships into Tolkien’s literature, keep in mind that Tolkien was rather upset, even offended when his literature was cast into such a mold. Indeed, one of the beauties of Tolkien literature is that one may interpret it as they will, yet do not think that his intentions were to crack on Germany using Mordor as medium.
Comment by Eric — December 17, 2007 @ 4:27 am
The map isn`t exactly correct, and Tolkien would be turning in his grave if this is correct!
Bad show!
Comment by y-dec — December 18, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
[...] I love maps. Here’s a site that’s all about maps…Strange Maps. One of my favorites on the site is, “Where On Earth Was Middle-earth“. [...]
Pingback by Just For Fun « Love, Mom (Notes from the fridge) — December 30, 2007 @ 5:16 am
Thanks for this map, and happy to live near Helm’s deep, I’ve always dream of it and you did it ! I had almost the same conclusion but :
I saw Mordor in Turkey and Rhun as a little Caspian sea. For the person who didn’T understand why italia (and greece) was the centre of good as he said that’s only because of Roman Empire, interpreted as heir of a former power and wiseness. Rohirrim came from the North like German came from Scandinavia milleniums ago.
The Easterlings are Turko-mongol people which always try to invade Europe (Attila, Genghis Khan, Ottomans…).
Tolkien searched a mythology for England but did a mythology for all Europe. Maybe a first sign of European nationalism ?
And no Americas are not Undying land, because Eru cuted the Undying land from the rest of the World and rebuilt the world. And so America would be the result of this building.
Comment by Dark Bloa — January 12, 2008 @ 9:02 pm
pan american hotel new york city creative el hotel mexicano sharm sheikh ritz carlton hotel in new york friendly head hotel nag nc pet park plaza hotel winter park fl crown golden hotel paradise puerto vallarta pan american hotel new york city penha longa hotel and golf resort croce di florence hotel italy malta
Comment by park plaza hotel winter park fl — January 17, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
[...] post by star one credit union sunnyvale ca Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...]
Pingback by Comment on 121 - Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? by star one … | Equity Line Of Credit — January 19, 2008 @ 2:41 am
Hey what about Iberia?!?!?!?!?
Comment by Juan — February 1, 2008 @ 10:42 am
I hope all you morons realize that LOTR takes place after the Fall of the Western Roman Empire. Notice the Dark Ages elements.
Comment by blade — March 11, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
I want my ring!!!
Comment by frodo bagins — March 17, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
give me the fucking ring . its my precious ring my precious MY PRECIOUS AHHHHH SHALABASABASA SHABADOO
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
alawala alawala alawala!!!!!!!! i iz a terrorist!!! i bomb ur ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
LOTR SUCKS!!!!! LICK MY ASS U LOTR GEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
FOR ASLAND AND FOR NNNAAAARRRRNNNIIIIAAAAAAA
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
IMA HOBBIT, I HAVE HAIR ON MY FEET AND MY ASS!!! DOES THIS MAKE ME A REAL HOBBIT!!!!!!!!!!?
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
i …………….AM ……………. BEOWULF
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
THIS …… IS……… SPARTA!!!!!!!!!
SPARTANS WAT’S YOUR PROFESSION!!!!!!
Comment by smeagle/gol — March 17, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
WELL I CANT COOK AND BOB CAN KINDA CLEAN SO THAT KINDA LIKE MY PROFESSION
Comment by SPARTAN 1 — March 17, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
I LIVE IN NEWYORK 51ST STREET BRENTON AVE PLEASE COME FOR ME IF U WANT BRING YOUR ARMIES I WILL THRIW YOU INTO THE FIRES OF MORDOR I HAV THE RING!!!!!!1 I AM AN ENT
Comment by SPARTAN 1 — March 17, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
The Americas is the Undying Land. Period.
Comment by Annariel — March 24, 2008 @ 7:53 pm
this means we turks are orcs or haradrim eh?so be it then:))also the word ”uruk” means family in old turkish.and can the minas tirith be vienna?ı think there are strong similarities between war on fields of pelennor and siege of vienna.
Comment by çağrı57 — March 27, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
[...] stronie Strange Maps znalelimy niezwyk, fizyczn map rdziemia profesora Birda z Uniwersytetu Kalifornijskiego w [...]
Pingback by Elendilion - Tolkienowski Serwis Informacyjny » Blog Archive » Jeszcze jedna mapa, ale jaka niezwyka… — March 29, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
You might enjoy looking at my own theory on this, which does _not_ deform any landmass and tries to keep metrics (i.e. distances) coherent. I also tried to base my conjecture as far as possible on JRRT’s own words.
http://www.geocities.com/otsoandor/WasM-eE.htm
http://www.geocities.com/otsoandor/Bel_Eri.htm
Comment by Ronald Kyrmse — April 8, 2008 @ 5:54 pm
this map is wrong because distances over some places are too great while some are too short. whoever made this map couldnt do it properly….
Comment by asdasd — May 1, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
Yeah, feels good living near to Southern Rohan! ;D Rohan rocks forever!
Comment by Alienor — May 11, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
Tolkien did not base the story on the events of WWII and his time. He states in the prologue that his work is not allegorical and that he very much dislikes it. He wanted the readers to interpret the events and places of the novel with their own life.
Comment by Kevin — June 10, 2008 @ 2:28 am
what about Iceland? I’ve heard that Tolkien was very inspired by Icelandic mythology (elves and trolls are still believed to exist there), language, etc., and by Morris’s ‘Icelandic Journals’. Iceland is very volcanic as is Middle Earth, with dramatic weather and landscapes strewn with rock formations. Many of the traditional houses resemble hobbit houses.
Maybe Tolkien was just inspired by Icelandic culture in general and none of the specific places in his books can be traced there, but i was just curious as to what you knew about that.
Comment by fluer — June 24, 2008 @ 1:36 am
I don’t know about any specific correspondence between Iceland and Middle Earth but one day while walking round the Icelandic town of Egilstadir I noticed a door going into the side of a hill and thought “Hobbit”.
Comment by Martin Watts — June 24, 2008 @ 6:45 am
hmm interesting map but u think mordor isnt on balkans its on anatolia cuz orcs r based on turks and mongols and other hordes and gondor is more likely byzantium empire or it could be on austuria cuz minas tirith battle looks like battle of vienna on the other hand ottomans were conquered all the balkans and it could be right location for mordor
Comment by ates — June 29, 2008 @ 2:15 am
ehh sorry i think isnt on balkans but its very good map well done.
Comment by ates — June 29, 2008 @ 2:17 am
now lets go back the real middle earth men of the west were cruel as mordor all the crusades and stuff :D
Comment by ates — June 29, 2008 @ 2:30 am
I live in Gondor !!!
Comment by Iason — July 2, 2008 @ 11:58 am
hmmm, sweden… I live in some wierd distant wasteland -_-
Comment by Viking — July 2, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
Tolkien wasn’t so nice to us Hungarians:-)
Comment by aetil — June 4, 2007 @
whit you “Hungarians” ?
if this is a map of earth in that time it was not a single hungarian in that area. check history.
Comment by Calin — July 16, 2008 @ 9:10 am
Well, Mordor is probably repressented as Russia or China, for being big and sending everyone with everything in battle that they can, they have overall a weak but high quantity of infantry (orcs) but strong Cavalry (Trolls). The haradwaith are probably the turks, and Rhun were probably the Mongols (from Medieval times). That might also be the reason to think Tolkien was a rascist. Everything in the east (Turkey, Russia, China etc.) was evil. Everything in the west was good. The elves were arrogant and the grey havens go to America, so he might have thought Elves are Americans. Northern are Dwarves, and in the northern there were Vikings and brutes, savages, just like the dwarves.
But Mordor could also be the Mongols. In roman times there was a great horde of a strong and savage group that would destroy all the west called: The Huns. When they finally perished, whe humans (in the west) got arrogant about our lands and all wanted a big empire again. Then in the Medieval times, something quite similar happened to our big Empire of the west. We got raided and slaughtered again by the East, this time because of the Mongols.
It could also just be something to have to do with Big Crusades. People uniting to kill a bad unholy army.
Comment by Sproeikoei — July 29, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
I think I could never accept any interpretation in which Mordor doesn’t equal Germany. Tolkien was a Brit so you could at least have the decency to let him peacefully hate the Germans.
Mordor, Mordor über alles.
Comment by Vitzard of It — August 10, 2008 @ 11:10 am
It is very cool that the mines of moria lies south in Norway,(close to Grimstad or Kristiansand) and rivendell is in the middle of Norway(Close to Trondheim i think)!!
Comment by Ronny — August 17, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
[...] 121 – Where On Earth Was Middle-earth? Strange Maps [...]
Pingback by David Nicolle, The Crusades (Essential Histories) — August 20, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
hello(salam)
Comment by saman ali — September 13, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Waaa, cool!
England is the Undying Lands!
You won’r believe from where I am, I am from Transylvanya, but that’s cool, I’m between Mt. Doom and Barad-dur
Comment by Feadel Guardian — September 27, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
[...] Hard as it may be for many Lord of the Rings fanboys to fathom, but J. R. R. Tolkien didn’t conjure up his laboriously detailed world from whole cloth–it was based on much Germanic, Celtic, Finnish and Norse mythology. Moreover, the intricately described geography of the world of Arda–wherein LOTR is set and the likes of the Shire, Rohan and Mordor are located–borrows liberally from the geography of Europe. How much so? Well, UCLA cartographer and geologist Peter Bird has mapped out much of Middle Earth as it would appear on actual Earth. [...]
Pingback by The “real” Mordor is…Transylvania (duh) | Geekend | TechRepublic.com — October 13, 2008 @ 12:00 pm
Взял себе :)
Comment by BlackStation — October 14, 2008 @ 9:50 am
“Ты один из немногих, кто действительно хорошо пишет”
Comment by UnclAlex — October 14, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
[...] Dracula, după ce că numele ţărişoarei noastre dragi sperie copiii americanilor de Halloween, s-au mai găsit unii să ne zică, că noi am locui de fapt in “fostul” Mordor. Care Mordor? Ţinutul ăla [...]
Pingback by România, ţara orcilor? : Bobica Alexandru — October 15, 2008 @ 9:01 pm
“Полезного много нашла для себя”
Comment by Usmax — October 15, 2008 @ 9:14 pm
“Превосходно”
Comment by Reanimator — October 25, 2008 @ 6:59 am
“Всё гуд”
Comment by PUTIM — October 25, 2008 @ 8:28 am
“Мне очень помогали ваши записи”
Comment by nattropin — October 25, 2008 @ 11:53 am
Да, Именно так и было!:))
Comment by gordav — October 25, 2008 @ 6:56 pm
Какая прелесть!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Comment by Danger — October 25, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
тема реально старая
Comment by Decorator — October 25, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
“Превосходно”
Comment by Arsen — October 26, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
I think you are looking at the wrong continent. Tolkein’s portrayal of mountains on his maps were taken very literally from ranges that actually look like the map representations, in Africa.
Comment by Rev Round — October 27, 2008 @ 4:34 am
“шикарно”
Comment by Дмитрий Г. — October 31, 2008 @ 11:49 pm
Вах-вах-вах
Comment by Jonik1 — November 1, 2008 @ 1:02 am
Очень интересно! Судя по некоторым откликам ….
Comment by Terapevt — November 1, 2008 @ 2:07 am
“good post”
Comment by Венелин — November 1, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
Читаешь это и думаешь….
Comment by Usmax — November 1, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
“Интересная заметка”
Comment by Валентин — November 1, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Спасибки)))))) в цитатник!
Comment by Жора — November 1, 2008 @ 6:35 pm
“Ты один из немногих, кто действительно хорошо пишет”
Comment by x-svetlana — November 2, 2008 @ 12:16 am
мне нра) хорошая идея.
Comment by GORDON — November 2, 2008 @ 1:18 am
“отличный блог! отличные посты”
Comment by АНДЕРСЕН — November 2, 2008 @ 2:18 am
“Занятно”
Comment by VladimiR — November 2, 2008 @ 9:44 am
Спасибо! Пригодится…..(-___________-)
Comment by PDV — November 2, 2008 @ 11:44 am
все может быть=))))))
Comment by Sergg29 — November 2, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
Отличная работа!
Comment by _Master_ — November 2, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Спасибки)))))) в цитатник!
Comment by sesna — November 2, 2008 @ 7:53 pm
Блеск.
Comment by Slavandos — November 2, 2008 @ 9:01 pm
Спасибки)))))) в цитатник!
Comment by Virus — November 2, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
жжот))
Comment by Svarog — November 3, 2008 @ 12:20 am
“Интересные решения”
Comment by Michael — November 3, 2008 @ 1:33 am
Классно!
Comment by SSS-1 — November 3, 2008 @ 2:41 am
Я от них безума!
Comment by sostaff — November 3, 2008 @ 3:46 am
ha ))
Comment by TPL — November 3, 2008 @ 4:52 am
“шикарно”
Comment by Lucky — November 3, 2008 @ 11:30 am
мило!
Comment by STLU — November 3, 2008 @ 3:09 pm
хорошая подборка)
Comment by Unshaven — November 3, 2008 @ 7:44 pm
“ваш блог у меня в фаворитах”
Comment by DJ_Vlad — November 4, 2008 @ 12:51 am
Спасибо!, в цитатник!
Comment by Sherl — November 4, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
“Достаточно интересная и познавательная тема”
Comment by Nitrat — November 4, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
“Интересная заметка”
Comment by RavenmoR — November 4, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
“Очень познавательно”
Comment by Olli — November 4, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
“Полезного много”
Comment by DVS — November 5, 2008 @ 1:20 am
“Занятно”
Comment by Nerd — November 5, 2008 @ 2:26 am
“Ты один из немногих, кто действительно хорошо пишет”
Comment by Noble Tiger — November 5, 2008 @ 4:36 am
…. вот так вот…..
Comment by Mad Max — November 5, 2008 @ 5:41 am
“подробней пожалуйста”
Comment by Reanimator — November 5, 2008 @ 6:46 am
“Интересные решения”
Comment by mike — November 5, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
“Отличный пост”
Comment by Paul — November 5, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
“здорово!”
Comment by Ramcke — November 5, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
“мысли здравые, но тяжело читать, не знаю почему”
Comment by MM — November 6, 2008 @ 12:28 am
Ну жесть конечно…
Comment by Kandrat — November 6, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
“Прикольно”
Comment by dvs_dim — November 7, 2008 @ 1:05 am
Какая прелесть!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Comment by Helium — November 7, 2008 @ 2:11 am
“Добавил в закладки”
Comment by DUZER — November 7, 2008 @ 3:18 am
Трогательно)
Comment by Glamour — November 7, 2008 @ 6:35 am
Спасибки)))))) в цитатник!
Comment by flash — November 7, 2008 @ 7:40 am
“познавательная тема”
Comment by dkrasny — November 7, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
“отличный пример стоящего материала”
Comment by bocha — November 7, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
“Побольше бы таких статей”
Comment by dimix — November 7, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
“респект”
Comment by DpyuD — November 7, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
wierd in that case that the norhtern parts like sweden norway didnt get names like the others becouse shire. alvheim vanaheim and etc was located there. and some names still exist. he should have given them some credit i think if that was the case.
Comment by admux — November 7, 2008 @ 11:49 pm
“соглашусь с автором”
Comment by Den Siaopin — November 8, 2008 @ 7:33 am
“прочитала с удовольствием”
Comment by direktor — November 8, 2008 @ 8:44 am
“Отличный пост”
Comment by Delf — November 8, 2008 @ 9:52 am
“Ты один из немногих, кто действительно хорошо пишет”
Comment by Copycat — November 8, 2008 @ 11:01 am
Спасибо!, в цитатник!
Comment by FOX — November 8, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Класс! Афтару респект!
Comment by ferrabs — November 8, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
“познавательно”
Comment by рОман — November 8, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
“Очень хороший”
Comment by DpyuD — November 8, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
“мысли здравые, но тяжело читать, не знаю почему”
Comment by Begemot — November 8, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
“Превосходно”
Comment by магний — November 8, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
“Работай с умом, а не до ночи”
Comment by Трухильо — November 8, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
“Жжешь”
Comment by DEL — November 9, 2008 @ 12:03 am
“я в восторге от Вашего стиля”
Comment by Максим — November 9, 2008 @ 1:15 am
“Спасибо за блог”
Comment by bela — November 9, 2008 @ 4:31 am
“спасибо за инфу”
Comment by Georg — November 9, 2008 @ 6:46 am
“Очень полезная вещь”
Comment by Deeptan — November 9, 2008 @ 7:53 am
“мысли здравые, но тяжело читать, не знаю почему”
Comment by Beto — November 9, 2008 @ 9:01 am
“Очень познавательно. Спасибо.”
Comment by Banzai — November 9, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
Читаешь это и думаешь….
Comment by alexcom — November 9, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
Спасибо за чудо))
Comment by Шубович Дмитрий — November 9, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
Шикарно, возьму в дневник
Comment by Banzai — November 9, 2008 @ 11:18 pm
Очень интересно! Судя по некоторым откликам ….
Comment by APS — November 10, 2008 @ 12:26 am
Случайно увидел. Не ожидал.
Comment by z0rg — November 10, 2008 @ 8:25 am
ha ))
Comment by AlexJK — November 10, 2008 @ 9:33 am
Супер!!!
Comment by Сергей Г. — November 10, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
хм…ну это памойму уже крайность…
Comment by alex-grig — November 12, 2008 @ 3:21 am
здорово)
Comment by С. Михаил — November 12, 2008 @ 4:28 am
Не пойму в чём дело, но у меня тока 2 картинки загрузилось. ((( А ваще понравились! :)
Comment by Archi — November 12, 2008 @ 5:36 am
Спасибо!, в цитатник!
Comment by СОВА — November 12, 2008 @ 7:49 am
“шикарно”
Comment by ПУЗАН — November 12, 2008 @ 8:57 am
“Полезного много”
Comment by Проктолог — November 12, 2008 @ 10:03 am
тема реально старая
Comment by Ямалец — November 12, 2008 @ 9:02 pm
отлично!!! Все супер!
Comment by Сосна — November 13, 2008 @ 8:23 am
Невероятно красиво!
Comment by ШНУРОК — November 13, 2008 @ 9:30 am
Большое спасибо! Есть ещё повод получить удовольствие… С вашего разрешения, беру.
Comment by Сергей С. — November 13, 2008 @ 10:39 am
“Превосходно”
Comment by Jet-Print — November 13, 2008 @ 11:44 am
“Работай с умом, а не до ночи”
Comment by Вихан — November 13, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
“Блог в ридер однозначно”
Comment by Евгений Титов — November 13, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
ммм)) так клёво))
Comment by Yasik — November 13, 2008 @ 8:16 pm
ну что тут скажешь…
Comment by Алекс — November 13, 2008 @ 11:29 pm
“Мало кто может похвастаться такой смекалкой, как у автора”
Comment by Вовка — November 14, 2008 @ 12:40 am
просто афигенно!!!!))
Comment by Hrom — November 14, 2008 @ 2:03 am
…. вот так вот…..
Comment by zema — November 14, 2008 @ 4:20 am
ммм)) так клёво))
Comment by Yaroslav — November 14, 2008 @ 10:23 am
“Всё гуд”
Comment by Flystar — November 14, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
да,но это еще и не все…
Comment by Ujeen — November 14, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
ha ))
Comment by ValeK — November 14, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
“Спасибо за блог”
Comment by Владимир — November 14, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
хорошая подборка)
Comment by VBA — November 16, 2008 @ 7:42 am
Спасибо! Пригодится…..(-___________-)
Comment by Spiller — November 16, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
И правда креатив…супер!
Comment by Virus — November 16, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
“познавательно”
Comment by rielter — November 16, 2008 @ 9:24 pm
Ну жесть конечно…
Comment by VBA — November 17, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
класс)мне понра)особенно!
Comment by vnik — November 17, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
“Мне все понравилось”
Comment by Olli — November 17, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Супер!!!
Comment by S.S.S. — November 18, 2008 @ 12:00 am
дяяя….старая темка, но ми тут нету^^ даже если не по картинкам смотреть))) нету и фсё^_^
Comment by JUNIOR — November 18, 2008 @ 1:20 am
просто афигенно!!!!))
Comment by Steelrat — November 18, 2008 @ 2:32 am
супер оригинально
Comment by Spiller — November 18, 2008 @ 3:45 am
Ничего себе подборочка!!!!!!! Великолепно!
Comment by Svarog — November 18, 2008 @ 9:02 am
Классно!
Comment by sam_mer — November 18, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
“Полезного много”
Comment by Sergik — November 18, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
отлично!!! Все супер!
Comment by Slavandos — November 18, 2008 @ 11:24 pm
ммм)) так клёво))
Comment by Mad Max — November 19, 2008 @ 1:53 am
Спасибо!, в цитатник!
Comment by SlavaKBB — November 19, 2008 @ 3:02 am
Спасибки)))))) в цитатник!
Comment by sidss — November 19, 2008 @ 10:53 am
“Отличный пост”
Comment by RavenmoR — November 19, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
“Мне все понравилось”
Comment by Delf — November 22, 2008 @ 2:35 am
“Добавил в закладки”
Comment by Sergic — November 22, 2008 @ 3:56 am
Шикарно, возьму в дневник
Comment by Вовка — November 22, 2008 @ 5:50 am
“Очень полезная вещь”
Comment by PrintBot — November 22, 2008 @ 7:12 am
мило!
Comment by Alex — November 22, 2008 @ 9:00 am
потрясающие идеи…нам перенять бы …великолепно.
Comment by Пляжный чудила — November 25, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
ммм)) так клёво))
Comment by M17 — November 26, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
хм…ну это памойму уже крайность…
Comment by KAT — November 29, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Блеск.
Comment by Hell — November 30, 2008 @ 12:08 am
Класс! Афтару респект!
Comment by gans — November 30, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
“Прикольно”
Comment by Fedik — December 1, 2008 @ 1:10 am
“Хорошо пишешь”
Comment by ПУЗАН — December 1, 2008 @ 3:04 am
Красиво
Comment by Glamour — December 1, 2008 @ 4:45 am
Спасибо, очень интересная заметка.
Comment by immaxy — December 6, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
Добавил в закладки. Теперь буду почаще читать!
Comment by iconcinami — December 7, 2008 @ 12:00 pm
Спасибо! а еще посты на эту тему будут?
Comment by liffuB — December 7, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
решил помочь и разослал пост в соц. закладки. надеюсь поднимется популярность.
Comment by exagreegroox — December 7, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
Пост навел на размышления *ушел много думать* …
Comment by anommerconna — December 8, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
очень интересно :)
Comment by bruirl — December 8, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
Интересно, но все же хотелось бы побольше узнать об этом. Понравилась статья!:-)
Comment by baibraks — December 9, 2008 @ 8:18 am
решил помочь и разослал пост в соц. закладки. надеюсь поднимется популярность.
Comment by flinnash — December 10, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
Спасибо! У Вас часто замечательные посты! Прямо с утра поднимаете настроение.
Comment by Empath — December 11, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
Ты как обычно радуешь нас своими лучшими фразами спасибо, беру!
Comment by brootrormupt — December 14, 2008 @ 6:39 am
Огромное вам человеческое спасибо, очень актуальная заметка.
Comment by entirm — December 14, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Огромное человеческое спасбо!
Comment by entirm — December 14, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
Опутеть как интересно, во задвигаете. Класс!
Comment by Wheerb — December 15, 2008 @ 8:22 am
материал прям оченно!
Comment by ADWER — December 22, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Очень понравилось, даже не ожидала.
Comment by payodo — January 4, 2009 @ 6:52 pm
Not all is exact. The good began.
Comment by Sergey — January 6, 2009 @ 4:26 pm
i’ve seen lots of stuff comparing minas tirith to byzantium, but that doesnt rly match up w/ this map
Comment by jake — January 14, 2009 @ 6:49 am
what the fuck? this map is bull shit. I don’t think any place on earth TODAY is the same as middle earth….what about australia??!?! i am turkish/aussie but he doesent give credit to OZ lol oh well xD. I think probably scandinavia is one of the main influences of geography in M.E
No offence to JRRT, or Christopher Tolkien. Both are awesome
Comment by Batu — February 10, 2009 @ 8:14 pm
Сайт достоин уважения. Это лучшее что я видел. Риспект
Comment by KolikoTer — February 17, 2009 @ 5:24 pm
Уберите банер на главной который при заходе вылетатет а то он мешает очень
Comment by KardioMasterr — February 18, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
А вобше хотелось бы видеть обновления почаше, а так ребят жедаю вам успеха в продвижении вашего блога. Успехов :)
Comment by Chaki — February 28, 2009 @ 8:24 pm
Классный у тебя блог. Есть свой стиль. А я вот делаю как попало, и не читает меня никто, кроме знакомых.
Comment by орок — March 7, 2009 @ 2:41 am
Машины – вот счастье!))
Comment by Reepliege — April 2, 2009 @ 6:09 pm
Portal Achievement – Long Jump
Comment by hristya — April 19, 2009 @ 11:46 am
Thank you author
Comment by leon — April 20, 2009 @ 6:58 am
Apples to Watermelons…Spike Lee’s On Welfare “Comparatively Speaking”
Comment by larulya — April 20, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
thanks!
Comment by Мальдивские острова — April 20, 2009 @ 7:13 pm
Guide to cock pushing awesomeness
Comment by lavrunya — April 21, 2009 @ 6:07 pm
Jennifer Lopez
Comment by benya — April 24, 2009 @ 9:20 pm
How Fast is your WordPress Blog
Comment by vitya — April 25, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
There is much speculation about whether this could be possible or not simply in terms of locational distortion. I think that if anyone is interested in this map then they would also be interested in “The Atlas of Middle Earth” some great maps which actually show an african like continent, the so called Hither lands and also the lands of the rising sun with a continuous mountain range not unlike north and south America. It is obvious that Numenor is based on Atlantis so we know at least where the Atlantic is. People seem to forget that the undying lands were removed from Arda and the world made round. This would account for many distortions from a “Flat earth” geography and obviously means that The Americas are not the undying lands and perhaps were the lands of the far east …. if you go round in a circle….
I think also that people are forgetting that civilisations rise and fall, who is to say that thousands of years in our past great civilisations were present which decayed and dissapeared to return many ages later, the dark ages of europe are a prime example of civilisation moving backward.
Of course Tolkien was not just writing a story it is actually all fact, that he has gleaned from ancient lays, sagas and texts from the vatican and other illuminati cults. I believe he retreived some from the ancient mayan codices too,
Laugh at your peril for still many ancient and some dark things lurk in the depths of the old world
Comment by Antolfin — April 30, 2009 @ 10:15 am
Не стану говорить за остальных, но именно мне этот пoст понравился.
Comment by prafRerry — May 2, 2009 @ 4:12 pm
thanks alot
Comment by Tony — May 4, 2009 @ 2:49 am
Вот решил вам немного помочь и послал этот пост в социальные закладки. Очень надеюсь ваш рейтинг возрастет.
Comment by prafRerry — May 5, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
Добавил в свои закладки. Теперь буду вас намного почаще читать!
Comment by prafRerry — May 5, 2009 @ 7:35 pm
Понравилась статья. А будет ли продолжение ?
Comment by joubbonerne — May 10, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
thanks for this map..
good
luck
Comment by Solomon — May 11, 2009 @ 7:40 am
Добавил в свои закладки. Теперь буду вас намного почаще читать!
Comment by helefyv — May 13, 2009 @ 9:22 am
Понравилась статья. А будет ли продолжение ?
Comment by virabux — May 13, 2009 @ 10:55 am
Что-то футер у вас вправо съехал (в опере при разрешении 1024х768)
Comment by xyyhewy — May 13, 2009 @ 4:04 pm
Наткнулся случайно на Ваш блог. Теперь стану постоянно просматривать. Надеюсь, не разочаруете и дальше :)
Comment by xyyhewy — May 13, 2009 @ 4:21 pm
Спасибо. Уже не первый раз по делу пишете!)
Comment by bosageb — May 13, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
Спасибо вам за сайт, очень полезный ресурс, мне очень нравится
Comment by kynisaz — May 14, 2009 @ 11:06 pm
Хорошо пишете. Надеюсь, когда-нибудь увижу нечто подобное и на своем блоге…
Comment by rimuvyw — May 15, 2009 @ 12:41 am
Блог в ридер однозначно
Comment by kosihem — May 15, 2009 @ 9:41 am
Не стану говорить за остальных, но именно мне этот пoст понравился.
Comment by lutucho — May 15, 2009 @ 10:40 am
Добавил в свои закладки. Теперь буду вас намного почаще читать!
Comment by hegutur — May 15, 2009 @ 11:58 am
Что-то футер у вас вправо съехал (в опере при разрешении 1024х768)
Comment by ditujih — May 15, 2009 @ 12:55 pm
Спасибо огромное. Почитал и понравилось. Картинок бы ещё.
Comment by zychady — May 15, 2009 @ 2:24 pm
Добавил в свои закладки. Теперь буду вас намного почаще читать!
Comment by chulato — May 15, 2009 @ 3:19 pm
Что-то футер у вас вправо съехал (в опере при разрешении 1024х768)
Comment by chulato — May 15, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
Понравилась статья.
Comment by sewmach — May 15, 2009 @ 8:10 pm
Хорошо пишете! Побольше бы такого!
Comment by chich — May 15, 2009 @ 8:12 pm
merci
Comment by aspicco . — May 17, 2009 @ 5:25 am
Отличный пост. Хочу тоже поделиться прикольной ссылкой – скачать NFS Undercover
Comment by Ogolev — May 23, 2009 @ 10:58 pm
Наткнулся случайно на Ваш блог. Теперь стану постоянно просматривать. Надеюсь, не разочаруете и дальше :)
Comment by kumuvuj — May 25, 2009 @ 10:58 am
Спасибо за эту информацию, однако осмелюсь внести долю критики, мне кажется автор перестарался с изложением фактов, и статья получилась довольно академичной и “сухой”.
Comment by gosahot — May 25, 2009 @ 12:08 pm
Хорошо пишете. Учились где-то или просто с опытом пришло?
Comment by gosahot — May 25, 2009 @ 12:34 pm
Очень интересно!!! Только не очень могу понять как часто обновляется ваш блог?
Comment by jepukuq — May 25, 2009 @ 3:31 pm
Извините если не туда, но как с админом сайта связаться?
Comment by rylocul — May 25, 2009 @ 4:15 pm
Нет ничего нового под небом…
Comment by секционные гаражные ворота — May 25, 2009 @ 9:41 pm
Слабо похоже на правду…
Comment by Интернет маркетинг москва — May 26, 2009 @ 12:39 am
Рад бы в Рай, да… реаниматоры не пускают!
Comment by мягкая мебель — May 26, 2009 @ 4:11 am
Бошка разболелась. Надо что-либо предпринимать в своем безуспешном бизнесе… Да и грядущая перерегистрация ООО – весьма актуальная тема на сегодняшний момент. Не проспать бы. Вопрос надо разрешить до конца 2008 года. Мда…
Comment by ToorbBrat — May 26, 2009 @ 7:04 am
wow! i live in the grey havens!
well i think u could be right
because they called ireland the “haven” because during ww1 nd ww2
they sent their children there
because it was not being bombed
Comment by kevin — June 1, 2009 @ 6:17 pm
Отличный пост, но помните что здоровье важнее всего
Comment by калории — June 2, 2009 @ 1:57 pm
oriclub
Comment by oricluber — June 6, 2009 @ 4:35 am
teşekkür ederim
Comment by yory — June 12, 2009 @ 9:34 pm
i live in the shire
Comment by jago — June 30, 2009 @ 3:25 pm
Do you want know your dns records tools?
Comment by see request variables — July 1, 2009 @ 4:23 pm
Cool servise – IP lookup tools
Comment by GEO base services — July 1, 2009 @ 6:12 pm
Vielen Dank
Comment by moon — July 3, 2009 @ 4:16 am
Muchas gracias
Comment by sun — July 4, 2009 @ 6:59 am
Where’s Asia?
Comment by JinJing — July 28, 2009 @ 12:52 pm
Hey, you must see that – offical website of movado
Comment by breitling chronographe replica — August 2, 2009 @ 8:42 am
okaaaay, so i live between mt. doom and minas morgul. :(((((((( but I read somewhere that mordor is actually turkey, so that would mean I live in Rohan!!!!!
Comment by megahor03 — August 5, 2009 @ 3:04 pm
download Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Full Version OEM 64-bit (includes SP1) – for you now! ! !
Comment by purchase Microsoft Windows 7 — August 20, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
i live at Helm’s Deep :D:D
Comment by ev — August 22, 2009 @ 10:09 am
Also note that 9000 to 2000 years ago, the average world temperature was 2-4 degrees C HIGHER than modern day. In Roman times, and up to about 1100 AD, BRITAIN was prime vineyard land. After 3 cold periods followed by “global warming”, we’re STILL well short of the temperature baseline of Julius Caesar’s Europe.
So, yeah, you people going on about forests in Scandinavia, the temperatures WERE sufficient for forests in the time period Tolkien picked for the setting – so long as the areas were actually clear of the then-receding glaciers and had soil, at the time.
Comment by Basara — August 28, 2009 @ 2:08 am
Yes, really pretty map, it’s very interesting.
Comment by addin — September 5, 2009 @ 10:16 pm
It’s map from Lords of The Rings?
Comment by addin — September 5, 2009 @ 10:27 pm
Настоящие, реальные сейфы
Comment by realsafe — September 10, 2009 @ 5:22 am
настоящее качество
Comment by saferu — September 11, 2009 @ 12:50 pm
правильный выбор
Comment by rostelco — September 12, 2009 @ 4:55 am
отлично тут у вас :)
Comment by alteltbaf — September 14, 2009 @ 5:30 pm
I’ve always felt that the Undying Lands were the Americas but the elves were actually a physical representation of the spirit of freedom and independence exhibited by the early settlers of North America.
Comment by Laurens — September 15, 2009 @ 10:03 pm
Последний из этих афоризмов уже цитировался в одной из дискуссий. Но мне очень хочется привести его и здесь. А ещё войти в круг уважаемых авторов:
Comment by крупные автоаварии — September 15, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
так вот ты какой телефон мобильный
Comment by marcetsot.ru — September 23, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
Отлично написано.
Comment by Флэш игры — September 24, 2009 @ 1:30 am
Последний из этих афоризмов уже цитировался в одной из дискуссий. Но мне очень хочется привести его и здесь. А ещё войти в круг уважаемых авторов:
Comment by Gepmaichehire — September 24, 2009 @ 9:28 am
Восхитительно, добавил в букмаки.
Comment by парни — September 24, 2009 @ 10:31 am
VeryGood. Thanks!
Comment by midget — September 24, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
:) Ничего так
Comment by онлайн геи — September 25, 2009 @ 10:50 am
А я люблю Ниссаны.
Comment by nissan — September 25, 2009 @ 9:43 pm
Спасибо почитал.
Comment by порно — September 26, 2009 @ 8:51 pm
гаджеты и телефоны, для Буратин и Буратинок
Comment by Гаджет — September 27, 2009 @ 9:38 am
Отличный пост. И вообще почти все в нашем существовании связано с детьми. Так что советую глянуть одним глазком – дети и еда
Comment by пища для детей — September 28, 2009 @ 7:31 am
Мобильные телефоны это хорошо
Comment by Гаджет — September 28, 2009 @ 6:35 pm
да, телефоны это здорово
Comment by Гаджет — October 1, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
про сейфы
Comment by Гаджет и сейф — October 4, 2009 @ 6:34 am
Actually that´s an old map of Atlântida times that represents, with some natural changes in the coast , due to the cataclisms that gradually destroyed Atlântida and of course the rest of the Lands around Atlântida , the Coast of Northern Lisboa (FORLINDON) , Sintra , the Sacred Mountain in Europe , also known as Montanha da Lua(Lune in french)or MOON MOUNTAIN (FORLOND), Lisboa (GREY HAVENS)and the Tagus River Mouth (GULF of LUNE).
Going south down the coast ,all that curve from Almada(HARLOND) to Sesimbra(ANFALAS) , we call Caparica .
Then , Setúbal(BELFALAS)and the Southern Coast of Alentejo(HARADWAITH), with UNBAR(Sines)and even more south .
Actually , i live at the feet of the Sacred Mountain of Sintra (Forlond).
Comment by Rogério Maciel — October 18, 2009 @ 3:02 pm
Класс добавил в избранное!
Comment by эроман — October 22, 2009 @ 7:05 pm
полезный сайт
Comment by Auto — October 23, 2009 @ 5:47 am
Сейфы на сайте
Comment by Сейф — October 25, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
Автор молодец. Затронул тему до глубины. Кстати хочу тоже поделится некоторыми открытиями – Трахеальный бронх. Неправда ли жесть?
Comment by Стенозы трахеи и бронхов — October 26, 2009 @ 10:10 pm
победа нано не избежна
Comment by Auto — October 27, 2009 @ 4:04 pm
Все про утюги
Comment by Auto — October 30, 2009 @ 5:58 pm
Касо- хорошие сейфы
Comment by Kaso — November 1, 2009 @ 6:38 am
Gondor corresponds with the northern Italian plains, isn’t it?
Comment by ownru — November 2, 2009 @ 7:17 am
It´s so funny …everywhere , everyone are going to all the places in the world , except to the right place : HISPÂNIA !( or the Iberian Peninsula), where , all these things happened , mainly , the extreme Occident of Eurasia , Lusitânia , Portugal .
Actually that´s an old map of Atlântida times that represents, with some natural changes in the coast , due to the cataclisms that gradually destroyed Atlântida and of course the rest of the Lands around Atlântida , the Coast of Northern Lisboa (FORLINDON) , Sintra , the Sacred Mountain in Europe , also known as Montanha da Lua(Lune in french)or MOON MOUNTAIN (FORLOND), Lisboa (GREY HAVENS)and the Tagus River Mouth (GULF of LUNE).
Going south down the coast ,all that curve from Almada(HARLOND) to Sesimbra(ANFALAS) , we call Caparica .
Then , Setúbal(BELFALAS)and the Southern Coast of Alentejo(HARADWAITH), with UNBAR(Sines)and even more south .
Actually , i live at the feet of the Sacred Mountain of Sintra (Forlond).
Comment by Rogério Maciel — November 3, 2009 @ 8:08 am
Big thanks…)
Comment by flood — November 3, 2009 @ 9:30 am
Thanks!) good site..
Comment by http://indigohealth.ru — November 3, 2009 @ 9:06 pm
Впечатляет размах автора. Побольше бы таких интересных авторов и блогов в сети. Но сеть огромна, так что вот небольшой маячек от меня для ценителей полезной информации – клиника современной медицины
Comment by книги по медицине — November 5, 2009 @ 12:30 am
Dear friends from Russia , is it possible that you comment in english ?
It´s not a matter of nationality …i am from Portugal and do not have a good relation with anglosaxons (generally i find them arrogant, always thinking , not only they are the best but also they are the masters of the world ), but , FOR the MOMENT , english , is a language that we all can relate to .
Thanks .
Comment by Rogério Maciel — November 5, 2009 @ 6:31 am
Спасибо было интересно читать.
Comment by анальное — November 6, 2009 @ 5:23 am
окна пластиковые, окна деревянные
Comment by Окно — November 7, 2009 @ 1:54 pm