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		<title>By: dnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm familiar with this types of maps, and I'm from Croatia, so I might offer some explanations.

This is simply a "geopolitical map" that records all possible disputes and threats to a country. It's highly schematic and it's actually a mere illustration of a more detailed text. "Američki meksikanci" (= American Mexicans) and so are just "potential internal sources of conflict".

Some translation:

1. territory of USA
2. areas of distinguished separatism
3. pro-soviet countries
4. country borders
5. sea border disputes
6. main sea routes
7. possibility of blocking routes

There are similar maps for EVERY country in that book for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m familiar with this types of maps, and I&#8217;m from Croatia, so I might offer some explanations.</p>
<p>This is simply a &#8220;geopolitical map&#8221; that records all possible disputes and threats to a country. It&#8217;s highly schematic and it&#8217;s actually a mere illustration of a more detailed text. &#8220;Američki meksikanci&#8221; (= American Mexicans) and so are just &#8220;potential internal sources of conflict&#8221;.</p>
<p>Some translation:</p>
<p>1. territory of USA<br />
2. areas of distinguished separatism<br />
3. pro-soviet countries<br />
4. country borders<br />
5. sea border disputes<br />
6. main sea routes<br />
7. possibility of blocking routes</p>
<p>There are similar maps for EVERY country in that book for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah 1: 11-16, Jeremiah 2: 11-13, 19
 11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree. 

 12Then said the LORD unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it. 

 13And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north. 

 14Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land. 

 15For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the LORD; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah. 

 16And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands. 

jeremiah 2:11-13
 11Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. 

 12Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. 

 13For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. 

 19Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts. 

It cannot be stopped. Russia and her Allies will attack from without and within the USA. God will allow it
2 Kings 22: 12-17
12And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king's, saying, 

 13Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us. 

 14So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her. 

 15And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me, 

 16Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read: 

 17Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched. 

  Repent, Turn to the Lord while there is yet time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah 1: 11-16, Jeremiah 2: 11-13, 19<br />
 11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree. </p>
<p> 12Then said the LORD unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it. </p>
<p> 13And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north. </p>
<p> 14Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land. </p>
<p> 15For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the LORD; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah. </p>
<p> 16And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands. </p>
<p>jeremiah 2:11-13<br />
 11Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. </p>
<p> 12Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. </p>
<p> 13For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. </p>
<p> 19Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts. </p>
<p>It cannot be stopped. Russia and her Allies will attack from without and within the USA. God will allow it<br />
2 Kings 22: 12-17<br />
12And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king&#8217;s, saying, </p>
<p> 13Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us. </p>
<p> 14So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her. </p>
<p> 15And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me, </p>
<p> 16Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read: </p>
<p> 17Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched. </p>
<p>  Repent, Turn to the Lord while there is yet time.</p>
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		<title>By: James M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of the map appears to have confused Los Angeles with San Francisco.</description>
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		<title>By: Emil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this world would be without a paranoia of right wing conservatives?

Eh...

Look at the ironic side...I know bunch of ex-communists who are now extreme muslims...Not good for you anyway AmeriKKKa with all the gas prices going up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this world would be without a paranoia of right wing conservatives?</p>
<p>Eh&#8230;</p>
<p>Look at the ironic side&#8230;I know bunch of ex-communists who are now extreme muslims&#8230;Not good for you anyway AmeriKKKa with all the gas prices going up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisF</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure have enjoyed reading about the map and everyone's comments...love your mad-passion for the Strange Maps. 
In response to # 67:  I have many relatives in Slovenia, and members of my family (not I) have visited frequently since  the '50's, and I have to say that the majority of the citizens were NOT brain-washed by Communism, and had no desire to destroy the U.S, rather, they wanted toilet paper and ball-point pens like we had.  The paranoia of the right-wing conservatives never ceases to amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure have enjoyed reading about the map and everyone&#8217;s comments&#8230;love your mad-passion for the Strange Maps.<br />
In response to # 67:  I have many relatives in Slovenia, and members of my family (not I) have visited frequently since  the &#8217;50&#8217;s, and I have to say that the majority of the citizens were NOT brain-washed by Communism, and had no desire to destroy the U.S, rather, they wanted toilet paper and ball-point pens like we had.  The paranoia of the right-wing conservatives never ceases to amaze me.</p>
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		<title>By: El-Visitador</title>
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		<dc:creator>El-Visitador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>«“This is probably a good reflection of Yugoslavian anxieties»

After reading 66 comments, I am left with the impression most people benevolently attribute the map to the specific circumstances of Yugoslavia in the 1980's and its internal issues.

Newsflash: even if Yugoslavia had a different kind of communism, etc., etc., it was still a Communist state.  And the avowed goal of any good komrade was to expand communism and destroy the evil capitalist societies of the West.  

People tend to forget that, if they had had the chance, they would have destroyed our way of living.  No need to deconstruct the map as a reflection of South Slavic psychoses.  

Although the commies were demoralized at the time, their ministries of propaganda still wanted their kids to know who the enemy was and how it was to be destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>«“This is probably a good reflection of Yugoslavian anxieties»</p>
<p>After reading 66 comments, I am left with the impression most people benevolently attribute the map to the specific circumstances of Yugoslavia in the 1980&#8217;s and its internal issues.</p>
<p>Newsflash: even if Yugoslavia had a different kind of communism, etc., etc., it was still a Communist state.  And the avowed goal of any good komrade was to expand communism and destroy the evil capitalist societies of the West.  </p>
<p>People tend to forget that, if they had had the chance, they would have destroyed our way of living.  No need to deconstruct the map as a reflection of South Slavic psychoses.  </p>
<p>Although the commies were demoralized at the time, their ministries of propaganda still wanted their kids to know who the enemy was and how it was to be destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: MaGioZal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaGioZal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“This is probably a good reflection of Yugoslavian anxieties. I can’t imagine the Black Muslims in Chicago ever being any sort of political threat. Yet the Muslim population in Yugoslavia were a significant minority with political clout.”?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;“Its possible that the map was used as a kind of educational indoctrination. As Yugoslavia and the USSR seemed to be on the verge of collapse the educators tried to reinforce their positions by pointing out that the USA was equally divided and belleagured. It would also reinforce a population’s belief in its ability to defeat the potential enemy that America could be.”&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;“So if I had to speculate, I would suggest that this dates from the late 80s, when Milosevic’s influence was ascendant AND central control over publishing remained. It probably was designed to show that nationalistic tensions were ripping other countries apart, including the US.”&lt;/i&gt;

So… I think this is a case of Freudian &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection" rel="nofollow"&gt;projection&lt;/a&gt;…:-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“This is probably a good reflection of Yugoslavian anxieties. I can’t imagine the Black Muslims in Chicago ever being any sort of political threat. Yet the Muslim population in Yugoslavia were a significant minority with political clout.”?</i></p>
<p><i>“Its possible that the map was used as a kind of educational indoctrination. As Yugoslavia and the USSR seemed to be on the verge of collapse the educators tried to reinforce their positions by pointing out that the USA was equally divided and belleagured. It would also reinforce a population’s belief in its ability to defeat the potential enemy that America could be.”</i></p>
<p><i>“So if I had to speculate, I would suggest that this dates from the late 80s, when Milosevic’s influence was ascendant AND central control over publishing remained. It probably was designed to show that nationalistic tensions were ripping other countries apart, including the US.”</i></p>
<p>So… I think this is a case of Freudian <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection" rel="nofollow">projection</a>…:-P</p>
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		<title>By: The weblog of Kelly Smith - web slave since 1994</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is apparently a Yugoslav Map of the Near-Collapsing US. The The apparent flight paths of Russian ICBMs are marked on the map. Go read about it. Very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I speak Serbian, so I could translate the text which surrounds the map - if someone has it? There was an article in Greek , newspapers "ta nea" on Saturday about this map, with request for further information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I speak Serbian, so I could translate the text which surrounds the map - if someone has it? There was an article in Greek , newspapers &#8220;ta nea&#8221; on Saturday about this map, with request for further information.</p>
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