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June 5, 2008

285 – London’s Lost Rivers

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The easiest pub quiz question in the world: name a river that flows through London. Answer: the Thames. A somewhat more difficult question: name another river that flows through London. A few might know of the river Lee (or Lea) that springs near Leagrave in Bedfordshire and joins the Thames at Leamouth in the London borough of Tower Hamlets. But how about: name a third river that flows through London? And a fourth, a fifth, a sixth?

We’d lose all but the more phenomenal pub quiz contestants here, even though there are in actual fact over a dozen natural water courses flowing through Britain’s capital. Many of them played important role in the development of the city, as the location of mills, the source of drinking water and as open sewers. Most of them have been pushed totally underground, forced into culverts, out of sight and out of mind – even if some of them have left their mark on the city’s topology. This map shows and names some of those lost rivers of London, all tributaries to the Thames.

Starting on the rive gauche of the Thames (which in this case means the north bank of the river), those are, west to east:

· Stamford Brook: the confluence of three smaller streams arising in West London, Stamford Brook flows into Hammersmith Creek before discharging into the Thames. Its name comes from ‘stoney ford’, and is remembered in Stamford Brook tube station. The stream was covered by 1900 and is now a sewer.

· Parr’s Ditch: also called Black Bull Ditch, this stream arose north of present-day King Street in Hammersmith, flowing under a bridge at Hammersmith Road and crossing what is now the St Paul’s Court estate to flow into the Thames where now Riverside Studios are.

· Counter’s Creek: arising in Kensal Green and flowing south through Little Wormwood Scrubs, Olympia and Earls Court to Sands End, where it flows into the Thames, Counter’s Creek can still sometimes be spotted by commuters on the westbound platform of West Brompton tube station, but only after heavy rainfall. Its tidal mouth is known as Chelsea Creek. Chelsea FC’s football grounds is known erroneously as Stamford Bridge because of confusion between Counter’s Creek and Stamford Brook.

· Westbourne: flowing from Hampstead through Hyde Park onto Sloane Square and thence into the Thames, the River Westbourne has left its mark on London toponymy, mainly by the other names it has been called through the centuries: Kilburn, Bayswater, Serpentine, Bourne, Westburn Brook, Ranelagh and Ranelagh Sewer. Kilburn and Bayswater nowadays are well-known areas in London. The Serpentine, formed in 1730 to beautify Hyde Park, was fed with the Westbourne’s waters until 1834, by which time it had become too polluted. Another area owing its name to this stream is Knightsbridge – named after a bridge over the Westbourne. It has been driven underground since the 1850s, when the area it flows through was gobbled up by an expanding London. An original part of the pipes it still runs through can be seen above the platform of Sloane Square tube station. At low tide, its mouth can still be seen some 300 yards west of Chelsea Bridge.

· Tyburn: originating in South Hampstead, flowing through St James’s Park and flowing into the Thames near Vauxhall Bridge in Pimlico, the Tyburn once branched to form the island of Thorney, the site of Westminster Abbey.

·Fleet: two springs on Hampstead Heath, directed into two 18th century reservoirs (Highgate and Hampstead Ponds) thereafter combine to form London’s largest underground river. The upper reaches were known as the hollow stream (‘Holborn’ in Anglo-Saxon, hence the name of that London area), its lower reaches as the Fleet (from Anglo-Saxon for ‘estuary’). The Fleet flows under King’s Cross, which was originally known as Battle Bridge, after a place where Queen Boudicca is reputed to have fought the Romans. It ends in the Thames under Blackfriars Bridge. The river gave its name to Fleet Street, which in turn became a collective term for the British press, as most newspapers had their offices there. It almost gave its name to a tube line, but since its opening coincided with the Queen’s silver jubilee, the Fleet Line was named the Jubilee Line. On a quiet moment in front of the Coach and Horses pub in Ray Street, Farringdon, you can still hear the Fleet’s flow through the grating. Another slightly more dangerous location for Fleet-spotting is the grid in the center of Charterhouse Street where it joins Farringdon Road.

· Walbrook: starting in Finsbury, flowing straight through the middle of the most ancient part of the city and into the Thames at Cannon Street Railway Bridge, this river’s name might derive from the fact that it flowed through or under the wall of Londinium, the Roman settlement on the site of present-day London. Legend has it that when London fell to the Saxons, these forced the original Celtic inhabitants to live on the east side of the river, while they lived on the west side of it – resulting in the still noticeable difference between London’s affluent West End and a more working-class East End.

· Black Ditch: possibly rising near Spitalfields, this river ran to Mile End, curving into Poplar to end in the Thames at Limehouse Dock. It may have been known by other names but by the late 18th century, it was called the Black Ditch.

Streams joining the Thames on its south bank are, west to east:

· Beverley Brook: rising at Cuddington Recreation Park in Worcester Park, Beverley Brook flows through Wimbledon Common, Richmond Park and Barnes and joins the Thames at Barn Elms, near Putney Bridge. Its name derives from the presence of the European beaver, extinct in Britain since the 16th century.

· Wandle: the Wandle springs from two sources: one of the Waddon Ponds in Croydon and another at Carshalton Ponds. It flows through Sutton, Lambeth, Merton and finally Wandsworth, where it joins the Thames. Both Wandsworth and the Wandle get their names from Wendle, a Saxon who settled in the area. Exceptionally among London’s ‘lost’ rivers, the Wandle is not subterranean for most of its length. Springing at Thornton Heath as the Norbury Brook, the river Graveney joins the Wandle near Summerstown.

· Falcon: the Falconbrook, or Falcon, springs on Tooting Bec Common, flows under Balham and enters the Thames at Battersea. It burst out of the pavement of Falcon Road (named after the stream) in Clapham Junction in July 2007 during floods that affected large parts of England.

· Effra: derived from the Celtic word for torrent (compare, in Welsh, ‘ffrydlif’), the Effra rises from multiple sources, among others in Crystal Palace and near Westow Hill, flowing under Half Moon Lane in North Dulwich, towards Herne Hill train station, from there towards Brixton’s Coldharbour Lane, Brixton Road, on to Kennington and then ending in the Thames, near Vauxhall Bridge. In 1992, an arts project sparked a campaign to unearth the Effra.

· Neckinger: rising in Southwark, the Neckinger joins the Thames via St Saviour’s Dock, where pirates were hanged in the 17th century. The river’s name may derive from the term ‘devil’s neckcloth’ (i.e. the noose). In the 19th century, the mouth of the Neckinger was known as Jacob’s Island, a place of great poverty and squalor, described as the very capital of cholera and the Venice of drains. Charles Dickens lets one of his best-known characters, Bill Sykes (from Oliver Twist) meet a violent death in the mud of the Dock.

· Peck: the Peck, springing in East Dulwich and running through Peckam, was enclosed in 1823. It can still be seen on the west side of Peckham Rye Park.

· Ravensbourne: the River Ravensbourne rises at Caesar’s Well in Keston, flows through Bromley, Lewisham and Greenwich and is joined by several tributaries, among which the beautifully named River Quaggy (also known as Kyd Brook). It ends in the Thames in Greenwich Reach (also known as Deptford Creek), west of Greenwich proper. In 1580, Queen Elizabeth I knighted Francis Drake on board the Golden Hind in Deptford Creek after his circumnavigation of the globe.

Many thanks to Alex Burke who sent in this map which can be found here on the Open Guide to London.

 

 


57 Comments »

  1. boobies!

    Comment by Bigsteve — June 5, 2008 @ 10:28 pm

  2. This post is well below your usual high standard, for two main reasons:
    (1) Beverley Brook, Counter’s Creek, the Graveney, the Ravensbourne and the Wandle are not “lost”, but still flow through parts of London, so the title is misleading; and
    (2) either you have copied large amounts of text from Wikipedia, or both you and the Wikipedians are copying from some third source. Never mind the lost rivers, what about the lost acknowledgements of your sources?

    Comment by londonerinexile — June 6, 2008 @ 2:01 am

  3. I got an opportunity to appreciate the “lost” landscape of London when I was a tourist there a couple of years ago. I discovered a book by Andrew Duncan called “Secret London”, which is a nice walking guide. The book covers more than just geography, but that was the part I enjoyed. One of the walks traces the Tyburn river from the Baker Street tube station to the Thames.

    Comment by Urban Garlic — June 6, 2008 @ 2:08 am

  4. Good books on this subject incude “London Under London” and “The Lost Rivers of London.”

    Comment by Lukobe — June 6, 2008 @ 5:51 am

  5. Apparently, people who live near to these hidden rivers are more likely to suffer respiratory diseases and allergies than the rest of the population in Lonodn.

    I think I read this piece of trivia in Peter Ackroyd’s “London: The Biography”

    I was wondering why it should be so for a while. The best answer I could think of was that it might be related to mould thriving in damp conditions etc..

    Comment by mould — June 6, 2008 @ 6:56 am

  6. I have to jump in here for the Effra, given that I’m from Herne Hill.

    It surfaces in Belair Park in West Dulwich after Crystal Palace and on it’s way through Dulwich. It then flows out to Brixton and under Effra Road before it makes it to Coldharbour Lane.

    Oh, and Half Moon Lane isn’t exactly North Dulwich (yes I know there’s a railway station called North Dulwich), but the term is meaningless. Half Moon Lane is Herne Hill.

    Comment by radikaledukation — June 6, 2008 @ 8:31 am

  7. This is an interesting one because quite a few cities have similar stories. I can think of Łódź in central Poland as a great example. Although no river seems to run through it, historically there are something like fourteen rivers that were said to have ran through the city!
    Raf
    http://uzar.wordpress.com/

    Comment by Raf Uzar — June 6, 2008 @ 8:38 am

  8. Londonerinexile, you’re most certainly right about the Wandle. Also, if you look close enough, the River Graveney can be seen on the Wandsworth/Merton border by Tooting. But it’s little more than a rubbish strewn stream.

    If you take a fancy, the mouth of the Fleet can be seen by leaning over Blackfriar’s Bridge and looking underneath. Worth seeing but perhaps not worth going to see.

    Comment by Sibneft Teaboy — June 6, 2008 @ 10:48 am

  9. Although they don’t flow into the Thames, I stick up for the Moselle in North London (hence Muswell Hill, of Kinks fame) and Pymmes Brook, both tributaries of the Lea.

    Comment by ohsimone — June 6, 2008 @ 11:04 am

  10. I have to agree with londonerinexile regarding your sources.

    Greenwich Reach and Deptford Creek are not synonymous.

    Deptford Creek is the stretch of water from Deptford Bridge, the site of the Deep Ford from which the area gets its name, to the Thames. Greenwich Reach is the part of the Thames that stretches from Limehouse Reach to Blackwall Reach.

    Comment by Bill Ellson — June 6, 2008 @ 2:37 pm

  11. Interesting, I never knew that there we so many rivers flowing through London!

    Comment by costumesupercenter — June 6, 2008 @ 4:34 pm

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  13. For a poetic take on London’s river, see U.A. Fanthorpe’s poem, ‘Rising Damp‘.

    Comment by Tim Stevens — June 6, 2008 @ 8:31 pm

  14. i know the guy who designed this map. it’s full of errors. he’s the first to admit it. .

    Comment by jimmy — June 6, 2008 @ 9:16 pm

  15. Despite all the critical comments (generally those who can, do, whilst those who can’t become critics) I think this was an extremely interesting post…

    As the son of a true cockney, I knew about a few of these rivers, but I’d never realised there were quite so many.

    Thank you

    Comment by Cogidubnus — June 6, 2008 @ 10:28 pm

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  19. Interesting map, even if a bit off and inaccurate.

    I’m sure most of the larger cities in the world would have many rivers that have either been dried up or shunted into culverts. With all the filling in of land and such, smaller rivers become a bit of a nuisance.

    I’d be curious about some of those other rivers.

    Comment by godozo — June 7, 2008 @ 5:00 am

  20. There is also an enjoyable book on London’s ‘lost rivers’ called Groundwater Diaries by Tim Bradford. It’s not up there with Bryson, Sinclair, and Ackroyd, but an enjoyable read for a couple of hours.

    The problem with this post is the name ‘lost’. They are actually very well documented and known by Londoners, they are more our ‘buried rivers’ than anything. I could swear I saw or read that the westbourne actually runs under Harrods or Harvey Nichols and can be seen running at a sub-basement level.

    Comment by robg — June 7, 2008 @ 9:21 am

  21. These guys have great photos of the Ebbw, Tyburn, Fleet, Westbourne, and Wandle.

    Comment by robg — June 7, 2008 @ 9:30 am

  22. Sorry for a triple post, but the aforementioned Sub-Urban guys apparently are responsible for the map you show here. There is a much much bigger version (PDF) accessible.

    Comment by robg — June 7, 2008 @ 9:37 am

  23. The map was first published in “london under London” by trench and Hillman, published by john Murray. The map was designed by the publisher.

    Comment by jimmy — June 7, 2008 @ 12:03 pm

  24. London was originally built bt the Romans on the North bank of the Thames, and on either side of the Walbrook. To this day, the Walbrook is the traditional division between East and West London. Until the 19th C, London’s juries were made up of half “West” and half “East” Londoners. .

    Comment by jimmy — June 7, 2008 @ 12:06 pm

  25. Theres enough Rats in London as it is imagine what it would be like if there were more rivers.

    Comment by bathroomsuites — June 7, 2008 @ 12:36 pm

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  28. New York City is not so ancient as London, but Manhattan also has its lost rivers and ponds. The Viele Map of its topography (1874) is still used by engineers engaged in digging deep foundations in the city in case there is a forgotten watercourse on their lot that they will have to deal with.

    http://www.mcwetboy.net/maproom/2006/06/vieles_map_of_m.php

    Comment by lichanos — June 8, 2008 @ 4:00 pm

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  31. I scanned that image originally six years ago for the Open Guide (which has sadly been down for a while). At the time it had attribution on the page – as Jimmy comments, it’s from “London Under London”, by Trench and Hillman. It would be nice if you could add a note under the image.

    Interestingly enough, now some years later I live in Leytonstone, east London, and under my street there is a late-19th century culvert containing what was once a stream called the Fillebrook. You can hear it running if you stand near one particular manhole in the street.

    Comment by Earle Martin — June 10, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

  32. Interesting. I knew that wetlands had been dredged up over the course of the development of many cities, but I never realized it was to this extent.

    Comment by James M. — June 22, 2008 @ 4:53 am

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  34. I saw your posting such a long time after you made it that I doubt anyone will read this, but no matter.

    A novel that depends for its plot on London’s lost rivers is “Thrones, Dominations”, a recent Lord Peter Wimsey novel that is not by Dorothy L. Sayers but by Jill Paton Walsh. Unlike other pastiche novels that I’ve read (and, on the whole, been disappointed by) this one is so close in style to its model that one can be fooled.

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  36. Going to school at the bottom of Muswell Hill, I was told that it was named after the well at the bottom of the Hill. (In Cranley Gardens I think)

    The Moselle flows through Tottenam in Lordship Park and underneath the Broadwater Farm estate, probably on its way to the Lea/Lee.

    Comment by Bill Onwusah — September 6, 2008 @ 3:28 pm

  37. It’s quite amazing and fascinating what gets forgotten over time and then rediscovered later on.

    Comment by Steve Harold — September 8, 2008 @ 2:55 pm

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  39. The Effra – Queen Elizabeth (the other one) was able to sail up the Effra as far as Brockwell Park to visit someone or other

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  41. There was an episode on a tv show on USA’s “The History Channel” about the lost rivers of London; think it was “Cities of the Underground”

    Comment by ja — October 11, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

  42. I think the River Lea runs through Waltham Forest and North East London. Any other rivers I would be stuck to name

    Comment by Steve Harold — November 26, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

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  45. The Lost Rivers of London, is an excellent book that can be bought at most good book shops, it explains where rivers are and have been flowing in London.

    Comment by Redwood - Hypnotherapist in Winchester — February 7, 2009 @ 9:01 pm

  46. You say that the name Effra is derived from the Celtic word for torrent, however some believe that it comes from an old London re-pronounciation of Heathrow, as the river flowed through the Manor of Heathrow in Brixton.

    http://www.brixtonsociety.org.uk/trailsix.htm

    Comment by Alex — February 14, 2009 @ 5:11 am

  47. thank you

    Comment by Tony — May 4, 2009 @ 3:45 am

  48. thanks for this map
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    luck

    ….

    Comment by Solomon — May 11, 2009 @ 9:00 am

  49. merci

    Comment by aspicco . — May 17, 2009 @ 6:43 am

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  55. I do not believe that Stamford Bridge football ground was named erroneously after Stamford Brook. The ground was named after Stamford Bridge, which carried Fulham Road over Counters Creek, and now carries it over the railway. The other bridges over the creek also have individual names (Kings Road is Stanley Bridge, Lillie Road is Lillie Bridge, and Hammersmith Road is Addison Bridge). It is impossible that people building a bridge over a visible navigable river could have mistakenly named it after the wrong river – that would be like saying that the builders of the Dartford Tunnel thought they were tunnelling beneath the Darenth.

    Comment by Basil Jet — June 30, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

  56. Vielen Dank

    Comment by moon — July 3, 2009 @ 5:17 am

  57. Muchas gracias

    Comment by sun — July 4, 2009 @ 7:42 am

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