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April 14, 2009

376 – Pipe Dreams, or the Rochester Ghost Subway

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“I was researching the town that I’m going to college in next year,” Duane Thomas Fields writes (about Rochester, New York), “and I came across the fact that the city had a subway for a time in the early 20th century. It hasn’t run since 1956 and the tunnels sit abandoned today. But in researching whether there was support for modern revival, I came about a map of what the subway map could look like today, with the original line plus proposed extensions.”

For much of late 19th and early 20th century, Rochester was among America’s two dozen biggest cities. But not anymore, not by a long shot: the former economic powerhouse by Lake Ontario’s southern shores has slipped to 97th place, and into relative obscurity. At its peak, Rochester had a third of a million inhabitants; now, at just over 200,000, it at least has the consolation to be still the biggest Rochester in the world. It out-sizes all 18 other Rochesters, including the original one (in England, with under 30,000 inhabitants). More importantly, metropolitan Rochester (about 1 million inhabitants) still is the second major economic hub in New York State, after – obviously – New York City.

One of those second-tier metropolises that made the American hinterland hum with industry, Rochester’s history can be gleaned from the epitheta it has strung together in its nearly 200 years of existence.

  • Young Lion of the West: founded in 1811 and numbering a few hundred people for the first few years, Rochester’s population quickly soared to around 10,000 in 1830 – making it the original boomtown (that it was labelled ‘western’ shows how much expanding the US still had to do).
  • Flour City: the flour mills along the Genesee river waterfalls, pouring out their production via the Erie Canal, made Rochester the largest flour-producing city in the world by 1838.
  • Flower City: the next industry to take off in Rochester were flower nurseries, some of which would grow to global prominence by mid-19th century.
  • The World’s Image Centre: photographic multinational Eastman Kodak was founded in Rochester, as well as Bausch & Lomb, the (less famous) erstwhile parent company of Ray-Ban sunglasses, and other eyecare products.
  • Smugtown USA: Rochester also attracted a significant amount of garment factories, became the centre of copying industry as the headquarters of Xerox and generally was a hub post-world-war-two high-tech – creating a self-confident culture mocked in the novel Smugtown USA (1957).
  • Most Livable City: Despite population drops due to suburbanisation and a race riot in 1964 that set off a nationwide wave of racial violence, Rochester in more recent years has focused on urban renewal and consistently ranked high in list of best US cities to live in (ranking #1 in Expansion Management Magazine’s quality of life list in 1997).

Strangely enough, Rochester owed its subway to the banishment from town of an earlier mode of transport. In 1900, the city fathers found the Erie Canal’s route straight through the city centre to be an unnecessary eyesore, and decided to divert it away from the urban agglomeration. The disused canal bed thus became the prime location for Rochester’s subway route. The last ship sailed through town in 1919, the first train travelled on the Rochester Industrial & Rapid Transit Route (RI&RTR) in 1927 (the overhead serving as Broad Street). For three decades, Rochester would be served by a subway, apparently the smallest city in the world ever to possess one.

Subway is a bit of a misleading term for the Rochester transit system, as only two miles of it were actually in the (ex-canal) tunnel; but it could be taken to refer to the fact that it was a separate, rapid-transit system. And in fact, most of it ran in an open cut below the surface, crossed by bridges. The last passenger service was in 1956, although freight transports continued for some time after this. The tunnels continue to form part of Rochester’s historical legacy, if only for the controversy they generate: should they be used for a new public transport system (be it a pedestrian tunnel, or even a re-instated passage of the Erie Canal) or should they be filled up, finally relieving the city of maintenance costs? The discussion recently seems to have tilted the latter way.

On this map, the blue line represents the Rochester Subway as it existed in the former Erie Canal bed, with the actual stations (from General Motors in the northwest to Rowlands in the southeast). The geometrically inclined map possibly distorts actual distance, as the station named Halfway seems much closer to the southeastern terminus than to the other one. The yellow, red and orange lines were all at some time proposed as extensions to the Subway, and would have greatly enlarged the scope of the original transit system.

  • The red line would have branched out from Driving Park, near the northwestern terminus, towards Charlotte Beach on the lakeshore, with stops at Kodak Park (already included in the original system), Ridge Road, Dewey Avenue, Boxart Street and Latta Road.
  • The yellow line was to branch south from Driving Park, looping through the city’s southern districts to reconnect with the original line at City Hall, stopping off at Emerson Street West, Lyell Avenue West, Chili Avenue, Airport-Brooks Avenue, Genesee Street, Violetta Street, and Corn Hill.
  • The orange line would head south from Court Street on the main line through stops at South Avenue, Mount Hope, the University of Rochester, and Elmwood-Strong. Future extensions would take the orange line to Genesee Valley Park, Southtown Plaza and the Rochester Institute of Technology.
  • Possible future extensions of the blue mainline would have taken it to Monroe Avenue East and all the way to Pittsford.

This beautiful map, then, is an exercise in nostalgic futurism: it imagines what the world would have looked like if the center had held, if crises had not intervened and growth could have continued. But Rochester will never look like this. With the tunnels slated to be put beyond use, this extended Rochester Subway will be condemned to a ghostlike existence, only on maps and in the imagination - no more than an engineer’s pipe dream.

Many thanks for Duane Thomas Fields for pointing me in the direction of rochestersubway.com, a site devoted to the part-defunct and part-fictional transit system. Special thanks to that site’s webmaster, Mike Governale, for providing me with this map.


53 Comments »

  1. Is Rochester really the “second major economic hub in New York State”? For some reason I think Buffalo holds this title. That’s still very interest about the subway. Now of course Rochester’s claims to fame are “the garbage plate”, the Rhinos, and the ridiculous amount of snow they get.

    Comment by Stewart — April 14, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

  2. Why a pipe dream? Sooner or later, car driving will be too expensive – and there you have it! Apparently, city center living also grows more and more popular, which is another bonus for a metro railway.

    Comment by Jan Wiklund — April 14, 2009 @ 2:21 pm

  3. This kind of reminds me of Tianjin’s subway, which still runs through a former canal bed.

    It also kind of reminds me of Milwaukee, where one of the interurban lines running to the western suburbs was supposed to go through a tunnel through the city center. However, the project was privately financed and the great depression meant the tunnel was only a little stub. The interurban line was replaced by a highway, and that little bit of tunnel is buried somewhere under MIlwaukee’s main freeway interchange…I wonder how many other midsize American cities also almost had grade-separated rapid transit.

    Comment by Alexander — April 14, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

  4. Ahhhh – Rottenchester…

    Acutally, I have very fond memories of the city, having gone to RIT for a while. It is a very liveable city and has a great number of parks and things to do.

    Comment by Art — April 14, 2009 @ 3:33 pm

  5. Also reminds me of Marin County.
    A growing suburban area across the bay from Oakland and San Francisco.
    The east side of the county is getting denser and denser and the only way to get from some small communities adjacent to each other (but unconnected by surface streets) is to take highway 101. The county vociferously denied connection to BART (bay area rapid transit) decades ago and has steadily strangled itself with traffic ever since. In the 1950’s the passenger trains and trolleys were ripped out by the bus companies and trucking companies (which were owned by the automobile companies, freight service did continue rarely until the 1980’s helping maintain the rail paths) who promised a gleaming new age of transportation. The bus system was quickly shut down in order to sell private cars by creating a need. This year we passed an initiative to re-use the right of way for passenger service and freight service and hopefully bring rail transit back to this congested transportation artery. The economy has killed bond sales for right now, so the map above is a similar history and also a hopeful view of what SMART (Sonoma Marin Area Rapid Transit) might bring back to this area if it is revived like their revival.

    Comment by Joseph — April 14, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

  6. Cincinnati has the same thing. When the Miami-Erie canal was closed, they built a subway in the canal bed and a road on top. There was also several miles of surface lines. It was never completed and the surface sections were used for Interstate 75. The tunnels still exist and could be re-used if needed.

    Comment by Mark — April 14, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

  7. Oh my, I didn’t expect to see my hometown on this fFine blog!

    I’ve walked through the empty subway tunnel a number of times. It’s very very very dark. and not just a little bit scary. :)

    This is some interest in turning the broad street bridge aquaduct area into a museum of graffiti and “tag art.” That plan too has yet to gain any momentum.

    By and large, there is a lot of Talk about what to do with the subway, but almost no action at all.

    Comment by Scott — April 14, 2009 @ 6:28 pm

  8. Rochester is indeed behind Buffalo in terms of economy and population. And Syracuse and Binghamton usually shame Rochester in terms of snow.

    Comment by Aaron Knoll — April 14, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

  9. Joseph, if it’s any consolation, traffic in the rest of the Bay Area is equally horrid.

    Comment by George — April 14, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

  10. [...] The Rochester ghost subway — Nostalgic futurism in the Rust Belt. Some cool stuff here. (And, in a weird way, reminds me of the Hanford site’s subway to hell.) [...]

    Pingback by [links] Link salad is confused by the international date line | jlake.com — April 14, 2009 @ 9:58 pm

  11. Just to clear the record… Rochester’s economy is larger than Buffalo’s.

    Value of Exports according to 2007 census data:
    Buffalo = $4,984,067,678
    Rochester = $5,069,881,503

    http://www.city-data.com/us-cities/The-Northeast/Rochester-Economy.html

    In fact, I believe the Buffalo Sabres are owned by a Rochesterian. That’s telling.

    Comment by Mike — April 15, 2009 @ 12:14 am

  12. I don’t know whether this is related, but the University of Rochester’s Computer Science department has a subway map of the department, with hubs representing research groups, stations along the major lines representing faculty members in those groups, and branches off of those stations with stops representing grad students.

    Comment by arensb — April 15, 2009 @ 2:48 am

  13. As a wee lad growing up in Rochester, I remember riding on a surface light rail along Lake Ave. which went “underground” into the old aqueduct over the river. I only rode as far as the stop under the library.

    Comment by J. B. Post — April 15, 2009 @ 11:44 am

  14. Wee correction re: Cincinnati

    The surviving subway line runs mostly under what is now Central Parkway. The tunnels are in such good condition because the city has to keep them up lest Central Pkwy. collapse into them.

    What an embarrassment to Cincinnati.

    Comment by Andrew C. — April 15, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

  15. Not sure about “the smallest city in the world ever to possess [a subway]“.

    I guess it might not technically be a “city”, but Serfaus is presumably a smaller place, and has its Dorfbahn: http://www.funimag.com/funimag13/serfaus01.htm

    Comment by Andrew — April 15, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

  16. Newark has a subway that runs over an old canal. It’s been recently refurbished.

    As for Marin County, my understanding is that they were preemptively cast out of BART when the Golden Gate Bridge Authority said a train on their bridge would cause major problems (and BART was afraid that Marin County would want the line).

    And speaking of fantasy subway systems, here’s an archive of The Dayton Subway System, based on their trackless trolley system (one of the few in the United States, and the most extensive).

    Comment by godozo — April 16, 2009 @ 2:09 am

  17. [...] Aktuell gibt es einen Artikel zu einem modernen Plan der längst stillgelegten U-Bahn von Rochester, NY. [...]

    Pingback by Landkarten im weiteren Sinne » blog.krefftwerk — April 16, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

  18. godozo, Dayton’s trolleybus network is hardly the most extensive. In North America alone, San Francisco, Seattle, and even Vancouver BC all have larger systems. Philly’s might be smaller though!

    Comment by Kyle — April 17, 2009 @ 3:13 am

  19. About smaller city with Subway, the first line of the subway in Oslo, Norway opened in 1898, with the first tunnel opened in 1928 (still in use, part of the modern system). http://www.tbane.no/index.aspx?cat=615223&id=745387&mid=745387

    Didn’t look up the population of Oslo back then but it’s at around 600 000 now and has grown a lot post-WWII. Still a nice map!

    Comment by Jørgen — April 17, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

  20. I’m intrigued so see that, with four subway lines on the map, none of them seem to connect with the rail station. Integrated transport?

    Comment by Ken — April 21, 2009 @ 12:34 pm

  21. @Jørgen
    Oslo’s population was in 1875: 76.900
    In 1900 it had soared to 227.900, the next big jump was in 1948 when the county of Aker was incorporated. Aker had at that point 130.976 inhabitants.

    Btw the Rochester Subway map was wonderful.

    Comment by Herman von Salza — April 22, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

  22. @Mike –

    Rochesterian? Really?

    Comment by Terry — April 22, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

  23. Fascinating map. A friend of mine, Ron Amberger, wrote a book years ago on the Rochester Subway–I remember riding on it once or twice as a child. I believe it connected to an interurban line that ran through Pittsford and Victor to Syracuse. Recently I’ve been trying to get our local Congressman Eric Massa interested in sponsoring a light rail line from the new high speed rail station to the Rochester suburbs.

    Historical factoid: Right after WWII Rochester and Toronto had the same size population.

    Comment by Larry Keefe — April 22, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

  24. [...] nifty post on one of my favorite blogs, strange maps, looks at the once and imaginary future subway in my hometown. [...]

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  25. Terry -

    Yes… Tom Golisano, founder of Paychex, bought the Sabres in 2003.

    Comment by Mike — April 23, 2009 @ 3:59 am

  26. @Mike -

    I was talking about the term: Rochesterian. Is that really how the inhabitants of Rochester refer to themselves?

    Comment by Terry — April 23, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

  27. Yep, folks in Rochester, aka “Ra-cha-cha”, refer to themselves as “Rochesterians”.

    Once heard Jim Rome refer to the Flour City as “Crapchester”. Bastard!

    Comment by Glenn — April 23, 2009 @ 8:35 pm

  28. What else would we be? Rochesterers? Isn’t a Buffalo resident called a Buffalonian? We don’t make this stuff up :-)

    Comment by Mike — April 23, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

  29. On the other side of Lake Ontario, Toronto.
    Does that help?

    Comment by Faust — April 24, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

  30. Ken (#20):

    I’m guessing that if the subway had been kept and expanded, eventually there would have been an extension built to the railroad station. Probably as an extension of the Orange Line going up the east side of the Genessee River.

    Comment by Don H. — April 25, 2009 @ 3:26 am

  31. Larry -

    What is the name of your friend’s book? Also, if you recall riding the subway or the interurbans as a child I’d love for you to send me your story/memories.

    Please contact me at info@rochestersubway.com

    Comment by RochesterSubway.com — April 25, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

  32. The book about the Rochester subway was: Canal Boats, Interurbans & Trolleys: The Story of the Rochester Subway, by Ronald Amberger, Greg Marling, Dick Barrett, pub by National Railway Historical Society in 1985. I just saw a used copy on Alibris.

    Comment by Larry Keefe — April 26, 2009 @ 2:01 am

  33. Point of clarification. When was the map actually published? If the “subway” stopped running in 1956, was this map published prior to that?
    While this color coded presentation is pretty much standard today for city transit systems, it wasn’t always. The graphics seem a little too current for a system that old.

    Comment by Marty — April 26, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

  34. Marty -

    This map was published in 2008 as a “what if” scenerio (as stated in the first paragraph if this post). The only line that was ever built is in blue. The other lines were proposed at one time or another. An actual track map from 1928 can be seen here… http://www.rochestersubway.com/rochester_subway_poster_1928.php

    Comment by RochesterSubway.com — April 26, 2009 @ 11:43 pm

  35. bigmaps.wordpress.com check this

    Comment by test — April 27, 2009 @ 8:08 am

  36. So Rochester is closer to Toronto
    than New York City.

    Comment by Faust — April 28, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

  37. thanks for this map

    Comment by Tony — May 4, 2009 @ 3:51 am

  38. thanks for this map .

    Comment by Tony — May 4, 2009 @ 3:52 am

  39. nice information.Really nice.Keep it up

    Comment by subham — May 4, 2009 @ 1:25 pm

  40. Yet another native Rochesterian kicking in (yes that’s proper term).

    Rochester, in general, has delusions of grandeur. It likes to consider itself a ‘big city’ in American terms, when it never qualified for that category– drawing in all its suburbs, it can count a million people, but the city itself is less than a quarter million. Rochesterians (yeah that’s the proper term) tend to fixate on the former figure.

    This has some good side effects. Rochester has better cultural assets than some cities twice its size. However, it means that the city lends itself to grand public works projects that are larger than the population can support. The Rochester subway is a good example.

    A later example of our big-city delusions is the inner loop, one of the least useful stretches of expressway on the east coast. Since every Big City needs a beltway (I know that’s fallacious but that was the thinking that drove it), Rochester decided to build a runted 3-mile loop around the inner city. It also serves as an asphalt moat to choke the life out of our already-suffering downtown area. Did I mention that the city pushed a major college from the city center far out into the suburbs to finish this macadam noose?

    The most recent failure was the Rochester Fast Ferry, a large high-speed ferry service between Rochester and Toronto that was marginally slower and more expensive than driving. We’re still trying to drive a stake through the heart of Renaissance Square, a combination bus depot/cultural center. Really.

    I’m not even mentioning the other big urban failure– Midtown Mall. That, at least, was an understandable mistake. It was a large urban shopping mall built on Rochester’s Main Street in the 60’s. It was a good idea at the time, but it fell victim to white flight, which kicked in, in a big way, during its construction.

    Yes, I’m ranting, but now I’m done.

    Comment by Papa Legba — May 5, 2009 @ 1:39 am

  41. The only reason those million people in the suburbs are there is because of the city. Like most American cities Rochester’s downtown nearly had it’s life drained away thanks to a shiny new interstate system and a lack of planning in the 50’s and 60’s. Today, people like “Papa Legba” like to dump on downtown for trying to revive itself. And from the safety of his mindless suburb he’ll have no part in downtown’s failures or successes. That’s cool. At least you’ve got plenty of parking out there.

    Comment by Mike — May 5, 2009 @ 2:56 am

  42. I live in the city, and want to see it revive– which is exactly why I don’t like Rochester’s taste for overgrown projects. The city has wasted too much development money on them– imagine if the fast ferry funds went to something that actually helped the city rather than fueled its dreams of being a Big City[TM] at the cost of its health.

    It’s thinking like yours– which focuses on grandiose monolithic projects with urban revival– that got the inner loop and the fast ferry built. Don’t conflate downtown revival with monolithic schemes.

    Comment by Papa Legba — May 5, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

  43. Gentlemen, we are digressing quickly from the subject of the map displayed about a subway to larger deep rooted social issues particular to Rochester, NY and shared by many cities across the nation (including mine).
    While your comments give me/us insight into Rochester’s community/ies and the challenges you face to come to positive solution for “revitalizing” your town–whatever that may mean for you– I suggest you realize that you both need to find common ground on your love for the city first and make improvements to those things your agree on as a joined force rather than diverting and sabotaging your city’s success by squaring off on your differences at the outset in the comments of this blog. There are many forums in your area that could benefit from the passion of your comments read by people that may miss reading them here. I suggest here http://www.topix.com/forum/city/rochester-ny as a start. Perhaps you team up to start a blog that you share that starts off with the problems you agree upon, and then you write your possible solutions. It sounds like both of you agree that the city is suffering from choices (or lack of decision) made in the past that are not working now. Sounds like planning in Rochester was unsuccessful because it missed the insight you bring to the table, please take the passion you’ve expressed here and develop it in your city. Best of luck unraveling the legacy of problems and promoting the good ones.

    Comment by Joseph — May 5, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

  44. You’re right, of course, Joseph. I apologize for spinning off into that digression.

    Comment by Papa Legba — May 5, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

  45. as someone mentioned, Cincinnati chunks of partially-built subway. http://www.forgottenoh.com/subway.html

    Comment by dj empirical — May 7, 2009 @ 9:43 pm

  46. Many thanks, Strange Maps, for this insight into Rochester, an unknown to me. Unforfunately, your reproduction is two blurry to read. I speak as a map-lover, which is why I drop in on your site. Also, I don’t object to digression or pedantry: these are welcome at my favourite site, Languagehat.

    Comment by iakon — May 13, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

  47. iakon,

    You can zoom in on the Rochester Subway map here…
    http://www.rochestersubway.com/rochester_subway_map_2008.php
    All the text is readable.

    Comment by RochesterSubway.com — May 14, 2009 @ 2:44 am

  48. There is an interesting documentary about the Rochester Subway available at through the Rochester Public Library. One comment from the documentary that sticks out in my mind was from a rider who said, “summer or winter it always took me 10 minutes from home to work”. Those of us who crawl along ice/snow covered streets in our cars would appreciate this.

    Comment by Andrew — May 21, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

  49. Andrew, I believe the documentary you’re referring to is called “The End of the Line”. It’s by Fred Armstrong and James P. Harte and it’s awesome! Packed with old footage, photos, and interviews. As you said it’s at the library or you can buy it here… http://www.rochestersub
    way.com/end_of_the_line_rochesters_subway_dvd.php

    Comment by RochesterSubway.com — May 22, 2009 @ 1:55 am

  50. In the 1940s I remember riding on the Rochester “Subway” (the Blue line on the map) from its terminus at East Ave, west through the bed of the old Erie canal (now Interstate 490) to downtown. It’s hard to believe, but the canal had once actually bridged over the Genesee River leaking water to the river below so said my grandfather. That bridge was covered over by downtown development and served as a tunnel for a short ways though downtown Rochester, thus the pathetic claim to be a “subway”. The subway “train” was nothing more than a trolley car. Previous to my day, it had indeed continued past the East Ave. terminus to Pittsford and beyond, all the way to Syracuse, hardly as local public transport, but as part of the “Interurban Electric” trolley system that went all over the east & as far west as Chicago. The Chicago South Shore & South Bend RR is a survivor of this. So is part of the “El”- the “Purple Line” to Wilmette, which at one time continued all the way to Milwaukee as the Chicago North Shore Electric Line.

    Comment by Tony Phillips — May 22, 2009 @ 5:22 am

  51. I have found what i was looking for !!! thx )

    Comment by BestHelen — June 5, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

  52. The map which you have posted is fascinating, I wonder why the government shut this down. I cannot believe that it has been condemned that long – since 1956! WOW! and it’s such a shame that it’s abandoned because it could be used to help us all get to work quicker! It’s interesting that the city had this transport method in 20th century and we don’t have this option today – even through we are much bigger much more advanced.

    As you said in your post geometrically inclined tends to distorts the actual distance but it’s interesting to build a picture what it might look like. Posting the website Rochestersubway.com was very helpful and I was able to review more material. Wow thanks for posting this – it has been extremely insightful. Thanks very much. Emma

    Comment by Emma Mills — July 17, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

  53. I don’t know whether this is related, but the University of Rochester’s Computer Science department has a subway map of the department, with hubs representing research groups, stations along the major lines representing faculty members in those groups, and branches off of those stations with stops representing grad students.

    Comment by medyum — July 18, 2009 @ 11:57 am

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